EVE General Discussion

I've been monitoring the graphs on eve-offline.net for a while now, and i did notice a decrease in subscriptions if compared with the same period last year, for the past two months. Generally even expansions that are not that "expected", like incursion last year, see an increase on the subscription numbers on the weeks prior to its release.

However here we are less than a week away from one of the most anticipated expansions since Trinity and the server has had trouble getting past 40k players online for the past two weeks. Mind you, this is keeping with the trend that we've seen since the release of the Incarna expansion.


So i've been wanting to ask. How many of you are waiting for the exp to hit live before resubbing alts, know people that are waiting to resub his or hers accounts or simply no longer can afford to have alts because of the current PLEX prices?

In the past month I can count 9 separate peaks over 40k players. 9 > 0
Welp, there goes the main point of your post, OP.
Sorry.

Well I did resub for Crucible so there is that.
I'd need someone else to read the graphs because I can't follow them, but aren't there generally bigger bumps for the summer expansions? This period has a lot of things competing for people's time
-Thanksgiving and saving up for Christmas
-School/college and getting ready for exams
-Big name game releases
Whereas for the summer expansion people have a lot more time to fill with internet spaceship activity.

tbh, I have resubbed through the winter patch. However, I don't see it fixing the greater problems involving the scap blob or the bloated coalition NAP/NIP involving 85%+ of null sec. Until those things are actually addressed I don't see how the game will improve. So I'm watching to see if I'll stay subbed or not.

The scaps need a radical nerf and then balanced upward in order to try to fix the fact that CCP waited too long to work on ship balance. Tier 3 bc's won't change that nor will the current scap nerf. Too little, too late.

The giant NAP/NIP that's consumed null has to be broken because it destroys the ability for players to set or achieve goals. Without the idea that you can do something more in the game there is little reason to log in. Without the conflict the game world stops functioning. Sure, the big alliances may have "wars" with each orher but the non-invasion mentality means th wars are actually just tornaments without purpose and thus without interest. Without these conflicts the market stagnates and the game dries up and dies.

There must always be a new horizon to reach for. The idea of having to rent that horizon from an alliance is a poor alternative and crushes drive. The fact that no matter what you might achieve, an unstoppable "I win" scap blob full of bored pilots will sweep it away at will also destroys player drive. EVE becomes finite without those 2 problems being addressed ruthlesssly because they blot out goal setting/achievement. End game but nobody actually wins.

Renan, there's also the big game releases that a lot of gamers are playing in favour of anything else. I can think of Skyrim and Battlefield 3. I know there's at least one other big title.

o/

I saw two Tumbleweeds this weekend, and thank god I drive a VW, the steering works like a champ when Deer stand in front of you on the road while you're going 50mph.

So many things are being tweaked that the "vets" know to give it a week to sort itself out, so about a week after Crucible, you'll see the numbers rise again.

Also there were so substantial losses of players, iirc 8% or so, that doesn't come back instantly because Helmar said "oops". CCP already dropped 2 long time issues of players, Factional Warfare and AF 4th, so it does look like business as usual to many.

If CCP really wanted to NOT be CCP, they'd put out a devblog of WHAT they said would happen and is NOT happening and WHY.

They won't though because good press is all they want, even though CCP Pann is now gone, they still do it her way.

That's ok — the xslt I use to convert that graph data into CSV looks like crap too because I couldn't be bothered to think about how to do it intelligently… brute-force ftw

As for the graph, that's just Excel 2011 fed with said CSV files.

I know two people who are selling down assets for isk to pay for PLEX to continue playing as long as that lasts.
After that, we are outta here.
Eve is done.
Stick a fork in it.

500+ million PLEX will do that