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WARNING: Trolls in Jita are Slandering the Good Name of this Legit ISK Doubler!

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Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#301 - 2014-01-29 22:22:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Stark
I usually don't bother commenting on scammers but this is pathetic. Everyone that genuinely believes this person, please take a look at this post that was posted in the first page of this thread ;

Luffleg wrote:

Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory!

So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment.

I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought.

He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good.

As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt.

After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.)

So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil.

TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc.

Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone.

PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;)

Much love,
Luffleg.

The Album of pictures:
http://imgur.com/a/6oPdu

Pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpg

Also, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs.
http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg


Know that the people supporting this person are friends, alts or people who like to troll. Don't trust this person, just laugh at him or link this post whenever he/she is advertising this scam service in Jita. Just my honest 2 cents. P
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#302 - 2014-01-29 22:28:06 UTC
Maximillian Stark wrote:
I usually don't bother commenting on scammers but this is pathetic. Everyone that genuinely believes this person, please take a look at this post that was posted in the first page of this thread ;

Luffleg wrote:

Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory!

So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment.

I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought.

He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good.

As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt.

After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.)

So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil.

TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc.

Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone.

PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;)

Much love,
Luffleg.

The Album of pictures:
http://imgur.com/a/6oPdu

Pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpg

Also, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs.
http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg


Know that the people supporting this person are friends, alts or people who like to troll. Don't trust this person, just laugh at him or links this post whenever he/she is advertising this scam service in Jita. Just my honest 2 cents. P



Reread Erotica 1's rules.

A 200m deposit followed by another deposit (your post doesn't specify the amount) followed by an 800m deposit cannot possibly meet all of Erotica 1's game rules.

The "My wallet is getting flooded" was a very clever way for Ero, once realising Luffleg had lost the game, to try to get them to make another failed deposit.

Thank you Luffleg for funding this service for those of us that can read. And thank you Erotica for being so damn good at getting additional ISK out of losing players.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#303 - 2014-01-29 22:40:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Stark
She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.

Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#304 - 2014-01-29 23:11:01 UTC
Maximillian Stark wrote:
She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.

Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.


Your name rings a bell but I'm away from my computer now. Can you kindly link a wallet pic of the last few days journals for us? Thanks.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#305 - 2014-01-29 23:12:53 UTC
Maximillian Stark wrote:
She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.

Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.



200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid.

Thank you for funding the service for everyone else.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#306 - 2014-01-29 23:17:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Stark
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:
She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.

Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.



200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid.

Thank you for funding the service for everyone else.


Here are these rules you so mistakingly use

Quote:
"Rules:

Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.

Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.

Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!


over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.

Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."


Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it.

Stop trying to defend yourself pal. P
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#307 - 2014-01-29 23:19:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Billy McCandless
Maximillian Stark wrote:


Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.


y is it funneh if yore frend get skamed

if its funeh ist nein einer skammen

also, u are wrong

yore frend didnt follw rulse even aye can see dat

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#308 - 2014-01-29 23:20:28 UTC
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:
She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.

Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.



200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid.

Thank you for funding the service for everyone else.


Here are these rules you so mistakingly use

"Rules:

Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.

Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.

Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!


over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.

Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."

Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it.



Yes, I have reread those rules. I know them very, very well.

Neither the 400m or 800m plays were legit.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Paranoid Loyd
#309 - 2014-01-29 23:20:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:
She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.

Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.



200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid.

Thank you for funding the service for everyone else.


Here are these rules you so mistakingly use

"Rules:

Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.

Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.

Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!


over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.

Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."

Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it.

Stop trying to defend yourself pal. P


Pro tip: You made an assumption in regards to the "-"

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#310 - 2014-01-29 23:26:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Stark
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:
She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.

Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.



200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid.

Thank you for funding the service for everyone else.


Here are these rules you so mistakingly use

"Rules:

Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.

Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.

Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!


over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.

Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."

Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it.



Yes, I have reread those rules. I know them very, very well.

Neither the 400m or 800m plays were legit.


She doubled 200m, in 50-500M range. 400m payout, the scammer knew she had more to waste on her. 1st try.
She got scammed unspecified amount, 0 payout. Second try
She gave the scammer 800M, within price range, atleast X2 of last amount received. 0 payout. Third try


She got scammed, even though she was completely following the rules.
Erotica is a poor girl who's good at seeing which suckers are scammable. If she thought fluff wouldn't go for a higher amount, she would never have doubled the 200m in the first place.

Watch out for this scammer, she may be backed up by trolls/friends/alts like the one I'm quoting but she is not to be trusted. P

Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too.


Filthy scammer.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#311 - 2014-01-29 23:37:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Erotica 1
Again sir, I ask you, your name sounds awfully familar. Did you not also break the rules yourself within the past few days, or perhaps won big?

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#312 - 2014-01-29 23:37:38 UTC
Maximillian Stark wrote:

Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too.


Filthy scammer.



Your logic here makes a false assumption, one that helps fund this service a lot.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#313 - 2014-01-29 23:45:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Stark
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:

Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too.


Filthy scammer.



Your logic here makes a false assumption, one that helps fund this service a lot.


I'm not the one making a false assumption here, the scammer Erotica 1 is making one since she doubled the money of someone that "supposedly" donated an amount that is not precisely stated in her rules. She went a. in breach with her rules for not following the strict lines or b. did but scammed the person when she did not double the 800m.

Don't bother defending your main/alt, we know it's you. P

Erotica 1 wrote:
Again sir, I ask you, your name sounds awfully familar. Did you not also break the rules yourself within the past few days, or perhaps won big?


You might have heard from my name in several channels of EVE, or from my post here revealing another scammer. P Didn't give you money mate, I doubt you're making much off this anyway except for the occasional moment like the sad scam you performed on this girl. Pretty sad to scam already for 800m, don't you think?

I'm going to bed btw, will talk to you scamming lot tomorrow.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#314 - 2014-01-29 23:51:32 UTC
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:

Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too.


Filthy scammer.



Your logic here makes a false assumption, one that helps fund this service a lot.


I'm not the one making a false assumption here, the scammer Erotica 1 is making one since she doubled the money of someone that "supposedly" donated an amount that is not precisely stated in her rules. She went a. in breach with her rules for not following the strict lines or b. did but scammed the person when she did not double the 800m.

Don't bother defending your main/alt, we know it's you. P



Ero is not an alt of mine.

Ero's rules do not prohibit her from paying losers of her game an amount designed to trick them into thinking they won it.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#315 - 2014-01-30 00:31:46 UTC
Max why are you so bitter? What is your story?

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Amrastion Tasartir
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#316 - 2014-01-30 05:32:01 UTC
I participated in the bonus round. I contracted 3b isk to him, and to my surprise he went through with it and sent me 15b, I have never met someone as humble as he.
Abrei-Kaii
Petrolinvest
#317 - 2014-01-30 06:52:22 UTC
This seems scammy to me...

However to be truthful, all the people claiming to be scammed seems to have either been not following the rules or using photo-shopped screen shots as 'proof'. With that being said I think I'll stay neutral on this one.
Abrei-Kaii
Petrolinvest
#318 - 2014-01-30 07:15:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Abrei-Kaii
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:
She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.

Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.



200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid.

Thank you for funding the service for everyone else.


Here are these rules you so mistakingly use

"Rules:

Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.

Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.

Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!


over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.

Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."

Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it.



Yes, I have reread those rules. I know them very, very well.

Neither the 400m or 800m plays were legit.


She doubled 200m, in 50-500M range. 400m payout, the scammer knew she had more to waste on her. 1st try.
She got scammed unspecified amount, 0 payout. Second try
She gave the scammer 800M, within price range, atleast X2 of last amount received. 0 payout. Third try


She got scammed, even though she was completely following the rules.
Erotica is a poor girl who's good at seeing which suckers are scammable. If she thought fluff wouldn't go for a higher amount, she would never have doubled the 200m in the first place.

Watch out for this scammer, she may be backed up by trolls/friends/alts like the one I'm quoting but she is not to be trusted. P

Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too.


Filthy scammer.


Reading comprehension must not be your thing... Let me help you out here

The rules say double the amount received not played...

so the 200m play is legit, she received 400m so her next play would had to been 800m that would have payed 2.4b, Then the next play would have had to been for 4.8B which would have payed 24B.

With that being said, how does 200m, 800m, 4.8B which is what the rules say = 200m, 400m, 800m? Please explain this to me >.>
Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#319 - 2014-01-30 17:13:11 UTC
I'm Erotica's alt and she wont even double my isk if I don't follow the rules Cry To anyone who feels they've been scammed, I suggest you reread the rules, follow them exactly and try again. Its the only way you'll recoup your losses and realise your dream of being space rich.


P.S I'm not really Erotica's alt I just said I was to make a point. Now remember, read the rules, understand them and try again.
ShamedOne
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#320 - 2014-01-30 17:41:26 UTC
I just got into the bonus round. I must admit, when he said all assets, it included my adrestia and erebus. I was scared at first, like who would really send me 5x those assets? Well I did, it took him a few hours to sort this isk, and then wow, I have my assets back and now over 800b in my wallet, I mean. Th ebonus round was tons of fun, new friends I read a story, sung PARTY IN THE USA, man. Erotica 1, is my hero. I support him 100% and I suggest you play the game to the full extent!