Ships & Modules

I guess I'm wrong with my beam Paladin

Wait, you actually bother to put weapons on your Rattlesnake?

Odd, I just use mine like a giant Gila.

All the fits still posted with a lot of blingbling....they are suiciding hull+1b in mods nowadays, people on the forums should start to post T2 fits or very very cheap faction junk.

I vote this for "dumbest fit of the week".

+1

OMG there is so much fail on that fit it is hard to know where to begin. But let's try anyhow. We will start with the lows, as they are the least fail.

LOWS- Well you don't get alot of options for missile damage mods so if you are gonna bling it up, this isn't a horrible place to do it. DC is overkill but personal preference so I'll let that slide.

MIDS- OMG Dat TANK. In bastion mode it tanks over 4000dps omni damage. Overtanked much? Usually people use bling tank mods to reduce the number of slots you need, you are using more. I don't use a 6 slot tank on a Dominix. To put it in perspective, I have an alt doing the Gallente epic arc (notable for having probably the highest DPS of any of the arcs) and getting by fine on a 3 slot, T2 tank in a Kronos. In using up all those slots you have no space to take advantaage of any of the marauders bonuses. Which would be 2 target painters and maybe a MJD.

HIGHS- At least you put a bastion module on. Torps vs Cruise? I guess that is a preference. But if you are going Cruise with that 208km range, I'd think you would setup to snipe. Except you left no room in your mids for a MJD or any prop mod.

Drone link? The only bandwidth you have is for a flight of lights. And if you are sending them out 86km with today's NPC aggro mechanics you are wasting your drones. similarily if you like salvage drones you are equally wasting time sending them 86km cause they are slow.

RR? Large RR frankly is overkill even IF you wanted to play drone logi. To put it in perspective I've used a sentry Ishtar for missions and actively rep my sentry drones. It is a great way to tank a mission. And I can keep them alive with a small RR. The hull RR is a total waste. Drones are super cheap to repair quickly when you dock to turn in a mission.

[edit] forgot about rigs!!!

So you put that much bling on your boat, yet you cheap out on T1 rigs? For shame.


If you really like to salvage as you go you can use your high slots much more efficiently. You could add all salvagers. Which lets you salvage wrecks faster as the MTU pulls them in. It also lets you salvage while you have damage drones out mopping up frigates. Or a combo of salvagers and tractors so you can tractor in more wrecks faster. lets face it, the MTU is cool and all, but it is slow as crap.

The choice of a 4th BCU or a DC? well, with a 4th BCU the damage is only neligable better, i already one volley all cruisers frigates and battlecruisers, and 3-5 volley the battleships. Since missile ships don't have other low slot modifiers, and as you can read i rarely have any other drones out then salvage drones so drone damage isn't needed. Its base targeting range is 118 km, with cruises easily reaching that range, and almost no missions where things are further away to shoot (and in those there are you have to move anyway) so a Signal amplifier is really not needed. Bastion gives it immunity to ecm and remote sensor damp, so again nothing needed there



What bonuses? one painter already lets me oneshot all the frigs cruisers and battlecruisers, why would i need a second painter? MJD? why, i have 118km range, wich allows me to shoot about 99% of the targets when i land, theres always something in range to shoot to let that 1% get closer. i don't need to MJD to get range for orbiting frigates, reduceing incomming dps or anything. The little amount of travelling the missions require me i do when i land in the pocket when i start killing. Comming to a stop at the next gate, and deploying my mobile tractor unit. In anycase since the tractor unit only has a 125 km range, with 118km targeting range i only lose 7 km in effective range that i WANT to kill something.

As for the tank, up till now i had to activate its emergency twice, once when about 20 destroyers tried to gank me, and a second time, when a vagabond decided to aggro the entire room and then leave. With the vagabond i didn't really have to activate it, but i wanted to keep my shields up in case they decided to send in a suicide squad.



Now lets see, torps let you kill a battleship with 3 to 5 volleys, so do cruises, torps don't kill all bc's cruisers and frigates in one volley cruises do... not to mention you have twice the range

Since the target selection of this setup is generally "shoot everything smaller then a batttleship if you have precision" or "shoot battleships when you have fury loaded" combined with the fact that you one volley everything smaller then a battleship often the wrecks are out of 60km range. With a drone link at least they nearly always keep on salvageing.

Large RR is overkill for the drones. I hardly use them anyway. But i have the fittings, and cap spare to run them, one pulse without haveing to check if they are repaired is enough. They work. With salvage drones, and a mobile tractor unit i don't need salvagers or tractor beams, they do the work for me, less clicking.



Here i agree, it would look nicer if they were TII, theres absolutely no real need for them to be TII, but they would look nicer. Controversially, the prices i paid for my fittings are relative cheap, i don't know there current market prices, but i payed less then the ship hull for all of them together. Calculate how much the fittings on your dominix are compared to its hull...

Paying the same amount in fittings as for the hull, isn't that much.



I actually Dislike salvageing, Salvage drones and the Mobile tractor unit are the best things put in the game for pve in a long time. now i can happily kill, let my drones and tractor unit work fully automated, clear pocket, recall drones, and pick up the loot and unit and leave the rest of the wrecks (if any)

First of all, i doubt you've actually ever flown a golem, secondly it suits what i want to do with it. As for the topic, it allows me to do the missions i do, faster, and to me with more fun then a Rattle

Hey at the end of the day all that matters is that you enjoy flying your failfit overblinged gank magnet.

That sounds like the same illogical excuses I've been hearing for years now, every time a carebear pops.

"thanks, I needed the insurance"
"it was free"
"I didn't pay for it"
"it paid for itself many times over already"
"I'm rich so I don't care" (but I'm whining and sperging anyway)


And it's still illogical here, it's not a good fit and it's actually WORSE than a much cheaper fit, you know... one made by someone who has a clue.

You must fail at math too. You fit tanks 4000DPS with both boosters. Your 6 slot tank costs 880 million.

A Pith C-typ XL SB costs 64 million and gives you a 1700DPS omnitank. Which is still way more than you will ever need for any mission.





And I'll repeat, if your failfit blinged out overtanked gank magnet gives you joy, then that really is all that matters.

But make no mistake. Putting a 6 slot tank on any marauder is fail.