Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I have played EVE since nearly the beginning and can't help but wonder why are there no pirate faction ships that use a missile damage bonus?

I would consider the theme of each pirate faction to be:

Angel = projectile with damage bonus
Blood = laser with damage bonus
Gurista = missile with drone damage bonus
Sansha = laser with damage bonus
Serpentis = hybrid with damage bonus
Sisters = Laser with drone damage bonus

I would love if you the Dev's would comment to any regard of this. I would ask any Dev's consider something either during the rebalance pass that I assume is coming or expanding pirate factions to include a pirate faction for the "missile lovers" of EVE.

I look forward to reading anyone's comments or flames as it is something I have long wished to see in EVE.

Id love to see something caldari/gallante myself. Maybe a missile damage bonus + and active rep bonus. Thatd be really fun.

Edit: Should have specified armor active rep bonus.

it exist, and it is called Guristas ships
very awesome passive shield ship that can use missile, however no bonus for missile (primary drone boat)

Caldari+Gallente = Guristas.

Caldari/Minmatar would be interesting. Speedy missile boats with active shield bonuses.

Sansha.

Missiles cause lag, hence the meta focus is on guns at ccp.

Presumably to the same degree as a Machariel is a Tempest...

ETA: I'd love to see a pirate Typhoon/Raven with range and application for bonuses and a static damage bonus.

Enough armor tanked ships in the game now, they had a hard enough time trying to be creative with the Nestor...

The new line definitely needs to be active shield and missile.

Gurista ships are passive shield drone boats.


As far as slots, it seems to range from 18 to 20 for the current hulls with the Nightmare drawing the short stick.

I actually expect this to be balanced, although how I don't know. It seems to be rather arbitrary as it is now so I'm not really sure how it'll play out or if Fozzie or Rise have even noticed this yet...and if they have does it even matter? It does make it harder to try and give any ideas on slots though for this mythical new pirate missile line.

I think either a 6H4L, 8M, 5L or 6H4L, 7M, 5L could work depending on if they settle for 19 or 20 slots. 5 lows could be useful for something like a 75/100 drone setup or as utility for a signal amp, damage control, etc.


As for bonuses, how about something like:

Role Bonus:
Reloading time of Rapid Missile Launchers reduced to 10 seconds.
135% bonus to Cruise Missile damage
115% bonus to Torpedo damage
100% bonus to Heavy Missile damage
(The Nestor has how many role bonuses again?)


Caldari bonus:
12.5% per level to velocity of Heavy Missiles, Cruise Missiles and Torpedoes

Minmatar bonus:
7.5% per level to Shield Boost amount

This would give the Pirate BS more DPS than the normal Caldari missile boats without going completely insane (I think).

This should give 1177 DPS for CMs, 1431 DPS for torps and 1108DPS for RHMLs if my math is right (I was never good at math). DPS numbers are calculated at all skills to V, +6% HWs and 4 tech II BCS fit.

There's a perfectly good line of shield-missile faction boats already. Sure, they're not pirate faction, but it hardly matters. We don't really need another set of shield-missile boats, so a future pirate missile line would be better off being armour.

OTOH, CCP said that they had some interesting plans for Guristas, or the Gila at least, so who knows how they'll end up.

We just got a whole new line of armor tanked ships, ugh.

This whole game seems to favor armor for some inexplicable reason.

The Sansha line will remain "as-is" more than likely, it has been said that they are pretty happy with the Nightmare for example. The same has been said for the Rattlesnake. Meaning these lines are probably going to be tweaked but I doubt you'll see completely new roles for Sansha or Gurista ships. It has also already been stated that a missile pirate line is something they would like to do. I'm not sure why people think faction ship lines negate the need or otherwise reduce the want for a pirate ship line of the same vein either? This boggles my mind actually, more variety is good.