EVE General Discussion

Walking in Stations is a huge task and one which really hadn't been thought out properly.

We're talking stations of over 20 km in size. How are we going to walk around that lot? What are we going to do in there? In fact, what is in all those thousands of miles of corridors and how are we going to interact?

I've seen other games where we've had taverns in towns where players could meet and, always, they're empty. So, if we're wanting an Eve version of Mallory's Bar (The Gap) or that bar from Total Recall then we're going to have to have something worth our while going around walking in stations.

When I was playing other games I never once saw the point of towns or cities where we could meet other players. Not once did I say I'll spend the evening playing BadgerQuest or whatever and spend the time sitting around in a town. And neither did I once run into any players who were hanging around like extras in Westerns lounging around on the boardwalks.

In every MMO that I have played, players would come into town - because they had to - get whatever it was they had to have done done as fast as they could - and then beetle off to do some whatever they did out of the towns.

So, please tell me, and I mean this most sincerely, what possibly could CCP do to make walking in stations interesting or purposeful to the majority of players? I have, at the moment no interest in WiS and I can't see me every having any interest in doing so. CCP would have to pull a massive rabbit out of a hat to make me interested. And if they tried to force us to leave the pod to find an agent/repairshop/refinery then the recent rage would be nothing compared to that storm.

Walking In Stations/ It's not going to work.

You know, the more i read about this, the more confused I get...

A few months back we had CCP saying that they would like more subscribers and they release a video that apparently shows what their plans are for the future (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRyXDlZKwgA), which the fans went crazy for at fan fest... Then they turn round and announced that they are scrapping their plans because the community have rejected them, when in actual fact the only thing fans rejected were the pricing on the NEX store and the removal of previous functionality (ship spinning).

So considering this, i think we are being misled by CCP and they actually decided to put WIS on hold because it was nothing more than an expansion to the NEX store... So the naysayers like Cearain are probable right in that WIS would add nothing new to eve gameplay wise but on the other hand, the people who are for WIS believe that the content shown to us in the future vision trailer would enhance the current experience. Both sides have perfectly legitimate arguments but we’re really talking about two completely different things.

I think the only way forward would be for CCP to release their full design plans for Incarna so that we could have a factual discuss and decide whether we want to see their vision of WIS or not.

You need to read more.... your confusion will dissipate. INCARNA was the result of a WoD beta, it did very little upon release, and many had to shut it off to save their computers because the code was horribly incomplete & rushed. But most importantly most of their resources for 3 full expansions (Read 18 months) went into the pile of crap, and caused FiS to be neglected.

If we'd been able to leave our rooms, run amok, visit brothels, shoot each other, lay tripwires with photon grenades and wait for the fireworks to ensue... THEN I think eve would've liked INCARNA. OR, if they'd given us a ROOM with a DOOR, but also gave more attention to the FiS aspect of eve at the same time, I think eve players would've been happier.


But they didn't. Most of us got a room or a door and very little else worth a crap for a year and a half. I get you want to play space-barbie, and I've no doubt one day you'll be able to, but for now ccp needs to focus on what they've neglected, and when they work again on INCARNA it needs to be slow, gradual, and 'in addition to' more traditional content releases.

Because the code was bad?

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You mean because losers took crapy super store special computers with only power supply cooling and stuck high end video cards in them.

The entire overheating problem was people with crappy computers and even crappier computer skills.