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highsec lvl4 vs nullsec lvl4
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O'Bert Plagne
Sods
#1 - 2011-11-25 15:21:17 UTC
Hi

I was wondering..:

I have acces to lvl 4 missions both in highsec, lowsec and nullsec.
Is there any diffrence in the income using a highsec agent or a nullsec agent?
Is it worth the effort going to nullsec and take the risk of getting pwnded?

regards
Goose99
#2 - 2011-11-25 15:34:50 UTC
O'Bert Plagne wrote:
Hi

I was wondering..:

I have acces to lvl 4 missions both in highsec, lowsec and nullsec.
Is there any diffrence in the income using a highsec agent or a nullsec agent?
Is it worth the effort going to nullsec and take the risk of getting pwnded?

regards


Differences include LP amount and pirate LP shop choices. It's more profitable if your alliance "own" that part of npc null, making it relatively safe.
FlameGlow
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-11-25 16:05:03 UTC
O'Bert Plagne wrote:
Hi

I was wondering..:

I have acces to lvl 4 missions both in highsec, lowsec and nullsec.
Is there any diffrence in the income using a highsec agent or a nullsec agent?
Is it worth the effort going to nullsec and take the risk of getting pwnded?

regards


Lowsec - probably not, unless running lvl 5 missions(lots of LP) or FW missions(different LP shop)
Nullsec - yes, not only do you get a lot more LP but the exchange rates of pirate LP are also better than with empire factions
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2011-11-25 20:56:47 UTC
like flame says ^^ the rewards are greater for nullsec mission running.

the other question, and only you can really answer it, is whether the increased reward is worth the increased effort / risk. i mission-run in curse and venal and enjoy the added dimension of potentially having everyone else also trying to kill me. although I haven't (yet) lost a ship, i'm not sure i'd recommend it to others, especially if profit is the main motivator.

why not set yourself up a little nullsec 'detachment' and give it a try? i clone jump into null, run a day or two of missions, then back out for a while to do something else.

lowsec? the rewards are not as good, the risks are probably not much less, but you are usually closer to hisec if that's attractive to you.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#5 - 2011-11-25 22:09:21 UTC
Nullsec missions certainly make me more isk, actually less because of the LP for me and more because I take the time to loot and salvage (since I generally build my ships out of reprocessed loot) and the tags can be worth quite a pretty penny back in Empire or in my LP store in Empire space, but on my experience even blitzing I can't make as much in nullsec l4s as I can in FW level 4s, heck I even will take level 3 FW missions if they are close to my staging point, they take mere minutes to blitz and are easy as anything in a bomber....unless you are gallente FW Twisted

Level V missions, I see as totally not worth it, since I am still using my Amarr Navy LP store, which I mean just isn't that great unless you have a really good supply of tags (which you could better get from FW missions, since level V missions tend to be pretty high level tags, which aren't what you need, the low level tags are the ones with value. Perhaps this is different with other factions I don't know I only have really high standing with Amarr and Sansha.

IMO, if you want nullsec PVE and good isk with reasonable safety, sleepers are the way to go, but there is alot that goes along with that lifestyle that some may find unappealing. Then again when some camp decides to anchor 25 bubbles at all vectors on your station in nullsec "for the lulz" you may start to see wormholes as very appealing.

Or just be like me and do all of these things, I also sometimes PVP, RP, build, and trade, there is no reason you have to limit yourself.
O'Bert Plagne
Sods
#6 - 2011-11-26 07:57:25 UTC
Actually im doing gallente lvl4's..

Well i'll give it a go to see if its worth it. If it gets too crowded and unsafe i can always go shoot some Test/Goons closeby, now thats easy peasy loot with no risk P

thanks for the imput guys
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-11-26 08:12:23 UTC
What lvl 4 missions do pirate faction give out in nullsec? I mean, do you fight other pirate NPCs or do you get a ton of missions against the empire (screwing your standing with them in the process)?.

Also is mission content different? Or the same as in high sec? What about bounties, are they higher? Number of battleships?

Ty
Terghon Tu
Rockbane Enterprises
#8 - 2011-11-27 00:28:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Terghon Tu
Highsec pays the least, but your safe from most others. All you have to worry about is suicide gankers or wardecs.

Lowsec pays more than highsec, but not significantly so. The LP stores are all the same as highsec since they're the same corporations. In lowsec you will almost certainly run into gank fleets on a regular basis. If you try to mission out of a given system for more than a week or two, you'll probably get ganked a lot.

FW missions in lowsec were never worth the effort since they involved a lot of traveling, hostile militias, and gank fleets. That was before the LP store changes however, so perhaps there are some items that make the hassle worth it. Most people I know using the FW LP stores just get their LPs from militia pvp, not missioning.

Nullsec pays the most and the risks are either extreme or less than lowsec. If you're in a highly-traveled system where there are lots of alliance conflicts, you're a target. If you're in a low-traffic area of your own alliance, you won't often see reds or hostile neuts. If you don't have an alliance, then most missions in null you'll be a serious target for gank fleets and the local residents. That said, there are some null-sec areas where you can go days, even weeks, without seeing another player.

So, in summary:

  • Looking for steady income = high-sec
  • Looking for boosted income or high-LP gain = null-sec in your alliance space, low traffic systems
  • Looking for unique FW items = low-sec FW