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Barclay Hemingway Inc NOT audited by me

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RAW23
#1 - 2014-01-27 11:23:03 UTC  |  Edited by: RAW23
Just a quick PSA:

Despite claims by Monkala Demeir in ingame communications to potential investors that his business has been audited by myself, this is not the case. I do not perform audits. What I did in the case of Barclay Hemingway was carry out a basic fact check on the claims made by Monkala in his thread here. Whilst I was able to confirm some of his claims I also found that others misrepresented his situation quite significantly. I informed him that if he were willing to correct those misrepresentations then I would confirm his new, accurate statements. Unfortunately, no correction has been forthcoming and I find I am now being used as a marketing tool despite my conditions not being met.

So, here are the basic results of the fact check:

1) Monkala has been involved in active trading over the first 17 days of this month (up to the date I carried out my fact check).

2) His claim that
Quote:
Currently operating with 1b in investments.
was not true. 1 bil was the cumulative total amount of investment capital he claimed to have received, including that which had since been withdrawn. He admitted to only having 500mil of investments currently on the books when I discussed the matter with him.

3) His claim that he had turned 600mil into 3.1bil in the two months he had been playing was incorrect. His c. 3.1bil in cash and assets at the time of the fact check included the 500mil in capital received from investors and a further 600mil from the sale of a PLEX. So, the actual figure is a 1.4bil profit, at best, over the stated period, not a 2.5bil profit (a fairly significant difference).

4) This feeds in to a related point - his profit levels were rather lower than represented, with actual profits for the period examined amounting to slightly under 30% a month or a bit less than 1% a day (his mails to investors are currently claiming 3-5% per day). Given that he was offering returns in this range, he would effectively be working for free when trading with investors isk, a very questionable situation that any investor should be aware of. The main point here is that, with recorded profit levels as they were, there would be no gain to Monkala in trading with invested isk, which raises the question of why else he would want to raise that isk.

I thought I should put this information out there given the current situation of his ongoing attempts to raise more isk ingame and his use of my name to do so.

It may also be worth noting that having used my name in this way, any scam would probably also be a breach of the EULA.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

Setsune Rin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-01-27 13:37:47 UTC
though it does not often apply to eve i do believe it is true in this case: never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to ignorance/stupidity

seems like a ton of bad math on his part

i wouldn't invest because he clearly isn't capable of doing his job effectively, but i'm not sure he's trying to scam.
RAW23
#3 - 2014-01-27 14:21:33 UTC
Setsune Rin wrote:
though it does not often apply to eve i do believe it is true in this case: never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to ignorance/stupidity

seems like a ton of bad math on his part

i wouldn't invest because he clearly isn't capable of doing his job effectively, but i'm not sure he's trying to scam.


Indeed. In my conversations with him I got the sense that the primary issue was an unfamiliarity with the kind of accuracy expected of MD offerings. In a real world scenario, playing a little fast and loose with the truth in order to present the best possible image of one's business is more or less acceptable, within reasonable bounds. The nature of eve being what it is, though, MD has come to treat accuracy as a test of trustworthiness. That's why I encouraged him to correct the errors and give it another go. However, finding that he chose not to correct the inaccuracies in his presentation of his business but, rather. to further compound them by misrepresenting the results of my brief fact-check, I can't help but question whether he is acting in good faith.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

flakeys
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-01-27 14:35:02 UTC
RAW23 wrote:


It may also be worth noting that having used my name in this way, any scam would probably also be a breach of the EULA.



If your going off on EULA rule of impersonations and such he would not even need to scam to breach that one.Though in this case he is walking the thin line of not impersonating a person but wrongfully state a person has giving approval of ...


A thin line to wich i'm curious if it would or would not be breaking the rules . If it was my name being used in such a way and i'd doubt if it was in violation of the EULA i wouldn't hessitate one minute to petition it to be sure i know where i stand in the whole story.

Let's just say i'd be verry surprised if this did not turn out to be a scam seeing how it is evolving.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-01-28 01:00:20 UTC
If it isn't a EULA violation, it's probably as close as one can come.

Bokononist

 

RAW23
#6 - 2014-01-28 12:07:45 UTC
The EULA thing is a bit tricky for me. I'm pretty sure it is against the EULA since the last reinterpretation of it and I will be petitioning for clarity. On the other hand ... I thought that was a pretty terrible reinterpretation of the EULA and while I may not be very happy about someone making use of my name I don't personally think it should be forbidden. Still, we use the tools at our disposal.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.