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CCP stop rising plex prices...

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900V
PublicEnemy
#1 - 2014-01-27 23:33:15 UTC
the title says it ....
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#2 - 2014-01-28 00:04:25 UTC
They are doing something to reduce PLEX prices, they are decreasing nullsec bounty payouts.

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900V
PublicEnemy
#3 - 2014-01-28 03:09:12 UTC
What I meant to say Raising* typo
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-01-28 07:43:08 UTC
As far as I remember, the CCP PLEX prices haven't ever changed. What are you referring to?
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#5 - 2014-01-28 11:55:38 UTC
Plex prices are pegged to a couple major currencies, and so if you use minor currencies (i.e. not euro or USD) they will rise and fall based on exchange rates.

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#6 - 2014-01-28 12:38:47 UTC
Few months ago PLEX costed about 500 - 550 Mio ISK. Now it is 650-700 Mio. Which means, that carebares like me found their way to make more ISK. Nothing else. CCP left PLEX prices to market and market slowly getting where it should be.

I dare to say, that average carebare get about 30 mio a day. One day 60 next day 0. Just multiply this to 30 days a month and you will get to the price about 1 bilion for 1 PLEX. It is the price, when carebares will rather pay for the sub instread of just PLEXing accounts for free. I think it is where we are going...

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Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-01-28 13:02:05 UTC
erg cz wrote:

I dare to say, that average carebare get about 30 mio a day. One day 60 next day 0.

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900V
PublicEnemy
#8 - 2014-01-28 13:23:09 UTC
CCP is manipulating PLEX prices. if you cant see that then there is obviously something wrong with your market window.plexes used to be 200m or so iirc some time ago.
Sarah Aeskiras
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-01-28 13:42:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarah Aeskiras
900V wrote:
CCP is manipulating PLEX prices. if you cant see that then there is obviously something wrong with your market window.plexes used to be 200m or so iirc some time ago.


And you also realize that EVE has had constant, very high levels of inflation, and some hyper inflation, in all aspects in the game pretty much since it's release right?

There's actually a term specifically for this happening in games, its called Mudflation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudflation

Happens in every MMO, just like in WoW how back in the day having a couple hundred gold you were one of the wealthiest players... now 100 gold is a pittance...

Doesn't have anything to do with manipulation.

Prices of older game goods go down in value, along with isk value, as the quantity and ease of generating brand new goods and isk rise.
Setsune Rin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-01-28 13:52:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Setsune Rin
wrong forum, stupid message with no evidence whatsoever etc etc.


try posting this in general discussion if you're trying to troll, generally people in MD know what supply and demand is
X ATM092
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#11 - 2014-01-28 15:00:29 UTC
900V wrote:
CCP is manipulating PLEX prices. if you cant see that then there is obviously something wrong with your market window.plexes used to be 200m or so iirc some time ago.

The reason you can't afford PLEX prices is because you're a poor as **** scrub with no clue how to play this game. You want to know where the PLEX you need to sub your account is? It's in my hangar along with hundreds of others because I actually have the money to buy this **** because I don't make 30m/day like a fukcing moron. CCP didn't take it, I did and if you want to buy it off of me then you're gonna have to actually learn to play this game.

This is like the kids sewing shoes in sweat shops bitching that ipads are too expensive for them to buy so there must be an Apple conspiracy.
Setsune Rin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-01-28 15:08:37 UTC
damn X, do your hangars contain ointment as well?

he'll need it with that massive burn and all.
Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
#13 - 2014-01-28 15:58:47 UTC
Plex hoarding is great.
Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
#14 - 2014-01-28 16:34:31 UTC
Blame the PLEX for Good program next. Big smile

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MaD Missy
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-01-28 16:47:26 UTC
Do you guys think plex price will fall, since there is a Rubicon plex sale, or should i buy it now?
Ritual Union
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-01-28 17:15:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ritual Union
Sarah Aeskiras wrote:

And you also realize that EVE has had constant, very high levels of inflation, and some hyper inflation, in all aspects in the game pretty much since it's release right?

What?
Sarah Aeskiras wrote:

There's actually a term specifically for this happening in games, its called Mudflation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudflation

oh boy
Sarah Aeskiras wrote:

Happens in every MMO, just like in WoW how back in the day having a couple hundred gold you were one of the wealthiest players... now 100 gold is a pittance...

lol
Sarah Aeskiras wrote:

Prices of older game goods go down in value, along with isk value, as the quantity and ease of generating brand new goods and isk rise.


On a somewhat serious note: How your post addresses the OP concern? The fact that he possibly made a fool of himself doesn't justify an equally foolish answer (don't get upset, I may be just trolling you, or maybe not - who knows?). Since it's getting harder to watch people blindly importing notions defined in one environment into a totally different one, let's take the "Reasoning 101 class".

Eve online:

  1. Is a game: you're not forced to play.
  2. ISK creation is player driven in the sense that is associated to each player effort.
  3. "God"(CCP) is changing the rules of the universe every 6 months.
  4. "God"(CCP) cares about you, though it has a strange way of showing it.


Real world:

  1. Is not a game: you're forced to "play".
  2. Currency creation is not driven by the actions of each individual.
  3. On our time scale, "God" doesn't change the rules of the universe.
  4. Contrary to what the church might be telling you, "God" doesn't need your money and "he" doesn't care about you.


How all this is relevant? Well, that's for you to figure it out. I can only help you so much. Back to OP concern: ISK plex prices. If back in the days (when plex was introduced) you could only use one plex per account in a month now you can use three(not counting the vanity stuff). I hope this helps. Is this in CCP's benefit? Of course it is. On one hand, people will buy more plex with real world currency (obvious benefit) and on the other hand, people will buy more plex with ISK (not so obvious, but this helps CCP's fight with the RMT people).

If this(see above) is what you meant with:

900V wrote:
CCP is manipulating PLEX prices.


then you're right, they do. Anyway, what makes you think it isn't in their right to do so?

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brinelan
#17 - 2014-01-28 17:25:38 UTC
You do realize that players set market prices, not ccp...
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-01-28 17:56:48 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
They are doing something to reduce PLEX prices, they are decreasing nullsec bounty payouts.


That's why I need a new improved Standard Battlecruiser BH pilot and ship for buy and sell...

That and a new improved Fleet Commander for Strategic Group efficiency (all flown by myself).
That should let me PLEX in complex or what not, and beat the NPC Pirates.

Hopefully increase my payout profit which will help decrease my price cost.
Sarah Aeskiras
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-01-28 18:02:01 UTC
Ritual Union wrote:

On a somewhat serious note: How your post addresses the OP concern? The fact that he possibly made a fool of himself doesn't justify an equally foolish answer (don't get upset, I may be just trolling you, or maybe not - who knows?). Since it's getting harder to watch people blindly importing notions defined in one environment into a totally different one, let's take the "Reasoning 101 class".

Eve online:

  1. Is a game: you're not forced to play.
  2. ISK creation is player driven in the sense that is associated to each player effort.
  3. "God"(CCP) is changing the rules of the universe every 6 months.
  4. "God"(CCP) cares about you, though it has a strange way of showing it.


Real world:

  1. Is not a game: you're forced to "play".
  2. Currency creation is not driven by the actions of each individual.
  3. On our time scale, "God" doesn't change the rules of the universe.
  4. Contrary to what the church might be telling you, "God" doesn't need your money and "he" doesn't care about you.


How all this is relevant? Well, that's for you to figure it out. I can only help you so much. Back to OP concern: ISK plex prices. If back in the days (when plex was introduced) you could only use one plex per account in a month now you can use three(not counting the vanity stuff). I hope this helps. Is this in CCP's benefit? Of course it is. On one hand, people will buy more plex with real world currency (obvious benefit) and on the other hand, people will buy more plex with ISK (not so obvious, but this helps CCP's fight with the RMT people).

If this(see above) is what you meant with:

900V wrote:
CCP is manipulating PLEX prices.


then you're right, they do. Anyway, what makes you think it isn't in their right to do so?


Sorry I should have included a Too Long;Didn't Understand section

OP states CCP is manipulating PLEX prices.
I state that PLEX prices rise due to a devauling of in game currency (ie inflation) due to game mechanics that all MMO's encounter. Has nothing to do with CCP manipulation.

What is so hard to understand? I guess you need to take theat"Reasoning 101" class one more... or 10 more... times.
Ritual Union
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-01-28 18:53:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Ritual Union
Sarah Aeskiras wrote:

OP states CCP is manipulating PLEX prices.

I state that PLEX prices rise due to a devauling of in game currency (ie inflation) due to game mechanics that all MMO's encounter. Has nothing to do with CCP manipulation.


Oh, wait. Stupid me. Now I got it: the (inflation) plex price rise is due to the inflation. Thanks for enlighten me. Now everything is clear: we have an egg because there was an egg to begin with. It makes perfect sense.

Roll

p.s. I could post something more serious but I doubt it would do any good to you so I will not bother.

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