Issues, Workarounds & Localization

As explained in the devblog here, we want to start a project to collect wishes and suggestions for localization. Those may be functional or related to the translations themselves. Here is the passage from the devblog:

It used to be the case that we were at times hesitant to make specific changes to the in-game text for German and Russian, since that text had been in use for a very long time and people were used to it. We were also aware that the players had started to use their own version of terms that had been translated with variations or in an unpopular way. Additionally, we have seen from the comments in the last localization survey that there are areas that need more attention than we had thought, while other areas we had considered important were hardly mentioned.

So bearing all this in mind, we would like to use this opportunity to get in touch with our player base more closely and start a wish list of fixes and features in a similar way as the 1000 Little Things list, but this time for localization specific changes and features.

We are going to put up three separate threads – one each in the German and Russian forums, so players can comment in their own languages, and one in the Issues, Workarounds & Localization section for those who want to comment in English.

We are open to any and all localization specific suggestions, but of course there is a caveat or two: We are not promising that we will be able to make everything posted there happen or that we will be able to reply to every post, but we do promise that we will be reading and considering everything. Some things might also happen sooner, while others will be something we would like to do, but that will not be possible right away. Lastly, we would like to suggest that very small, specific issues (think “there is a spelling mistake in mission x”) be put into a bug report rather than the 1000 Little Loc Things, since that way turnaround will be faster.

Terminology in the example you mentioned has been changed quite a few months ago. With that in mind, you are welcome to check the latest state of localization on Singularity and/or contribute to the Russian localization "Little Things" thread here, or join the discussion with the people working on the localization itself on the EVE-RU forums.

Hey Gripen,

So as part of this project, all of these kinds of issues will be looked at (especially if we get bug reports), but I did want to mention one thing that we did as part of the migration to our new localization engine that could help alleviate these problems. Pre-Crucible, then UI text (which is usually added by programmers) was sometimes done with a bit of a quick-fix mentality. Your example could very well have happened because a programmer actually found the strings "Warp to" and "Member" existing separately in the localization tables, and just used them together without regard to what the strings actually meant. This was compounded by strings not always having good descriptions, so a translator just gets the string "Member" out of context.

Now, as part of Cerberus, we have instituted guidelines for adding text. Text is, for example, never allowed to be concatenated. If you need the string "Warp to Member", you must actually add the full string "Warp to Member" to the content engine. And QA has tools to test whether strings are being concatenated and will file bugs right away if any such strings are found (without waiting for the translation to inevitably be wrong). Secondly, when adding new strings, descriptions are required, so "Member" should not be ambiguous anymore. Many old texts were changed as part of Crucible to remove concatenation, but this is something we will continue to work on as part of this 1000 little loc things project.

Thanks for your input!

There are a few modules with 'optimizer' in the names, and I invariably mess up the market search for them.

Please do not commit the mistake of forcing a language on someone because their IP is in some specific locale. There are many of us who are ex pats and while we may live in a country with language "A", we prefer to play EVE in language "B". If localization and language always remain selectable and or "opt in", then I will be happy. Having a language imposed on me by geography makes me unhappy. Computers are supposed to make life simpler for us, not enslave us and force us to follow someone else's rules.

1. Make all station Containers unable to be repackaged if there are items in them.

2. Also make it to where if the Container is repackaged, close any open windows for that container.

I am seeing a lot of people with this same problem right now and I am also a victim of this for some major losses. I am also still awaiting a response on my petition.

Kodyn

The ability to right click on an item a linked item, or a market or contract item and select "find in assets" or "find in corp assets"
The ability to enlarge the spaceport inventory box by dragging
Allowing the minimise function to do just that and not shuffling it back to the side bar. I like to see what missions I have open at the bottom of my screen.
If I launch my drones and I had previously had my "drones in space" box open, when I launch them again I want it to be open automatically as it used to be before the Incarna exp.
I would like to do invention in my POS without the message telling me lies and saying I dont have the stuff.
When in fitting, and I want to offline a grouped weapon and it asks me am I sure, I want a box to tick to say "of couse I do or I wouldnt have clicked it, so dont bledywell ask me again thanks".
I would like a get out of jail free card which allows be to blow up Concord once a week without fear of retaliation or standing loss. This could be a great way to let off steam when things in the game P me off.
I got heaps more so when these are fixed I will post the next list of a hundred.