Wormholes

Just information to assist other living in a Cataclysmic Variable. This is our current C6 SlowCat setup for Capital Escalations.

2 x SlowCat Carriers (ARCHON or NID but ARCHON is better for obvious reasons)
1 x Loki Web Boat
2 x Dreadnaughts (No Phoenix for you!)
Any BS dps you want the more the better. Additional Dreads or carriers help as well.
OPTIONAL: Emergency Scorpion (we use it every single time)

• Carriers cannot triage in Cataclysmic Variables, unless you have perfect skills and a fit that is horribly expensive. (BOB does not approve)


• Dreads can siege but require a little different fit to survive. We generally use the Scorpion to ensure that they don't get primarried for long.

Neuts and the reduction in rep amount really hurt the dreads survivability. You will need two Capital Armor Repair modules to survive any significant time being primary. Even with all level 5 skills you will not survive an entire 5 min siege being primaried by 6 or more BS. You have to kill them quickly and have Scorpion support if things go badly or you get primarried too long.

*We use the Scorpion to dictate range and jam any ship that is not primary. Since Sleepers seem to burn away from the ECM ship we do not want to jam and primary as it often puts them outside of weapon range.*

I would never recommend QUAD escalating all at once for any reason. We use dread pilots in BS and escalate one carrier, clean up, then the second carrier, clean up and then the dreads in the same order. We have the other carrier in a guardian until its time to go get the second carrier to keep the carrier up. This is also where the Scorpion comes in handy. If you don't use a guardian then the Scorpion can simply jam anything that attacks the carrier. WE have not had anyone targeted and shot for more than 2 mins with the Scorpion on field. If anything else it is a good insurance.

Its fairly easy once you have 2 carriers on the field. I've also just warped dreads in and out and used BS's to kill things. Its a little longer but you never had dreads die in siege.

We escalate for the isk. Sieging with dreads is fine as long as you have a scorpion to take the DPS. Triage is kind of pointless due to the RR bonus anyways. Slow cats provide more DPS with about the same rep power.

Ya, there are issues in any WH. We have only ever escalated in a C5 w/no effect previously. We completed them in about 15 mins in the C5. In our Cata it does take about 20 mins, we are also still learning everything atm. based on pure DPS numbers we should technically be done in about 10 once we get our machine well oiled and another archon or two in the site.

I like that Cata holes mean that Carriers are still viable dps options. Ya, that is nothing compared to siege dread dps but they are cheaper and easier to get into. More carriers also mean that noone should ever die or need to triage for any reason.

My point was not that you should triage for more reps but so that you don't need to triple escalate which puts enormous pressure on the dread.

You clearly can escalate in a cata and can do it is a variety of ways but I really think it needs to be pointed out that if youre looking to PVE, a cata system is second last on your preferred options list.

WTB c6 black hole, convo for details

If you find the original CCRES WH I can give you deep safes ;)

It's all good and possible Cata easily, but if you want it to be safer, faster, and earn more ISK in less time don't go for a Cataclysmic effect for farming :P.