EVE General Discussion

N3PL trying to bring in more stuff. I think titan numbers sit at about 60(CFC)-45(N3PL)

That big collective shrug was becuase someone made a rookie tactical call, and Leeroy'd those Dreds into hell, not because of any bugs.

System working as intended == Shrug.
System bug == CCP might take corrective action of some kind.

I doubt it. Those assets will still exist, there for the taking in station. Having assets hell camped isn't a reason for reimbursement. Also, it's an advertising coup for CCP, I doubt they're gonna take action to mitigate it's effects.

With 27 titans, 150 dreadnaughts, and 5 carriers confirmed dead and their approximate value of 100, 3.5, and 1.5 billion ISK respectively and PLEX at 640 million ISK / $19.99 each this battle should have surpassed $100,000 in ships destroyed so far.

Also 20-8. That's....just...wow....

Someone's gonna be sore tomorrow.

You see, as much sense as that argument might make sense to you, its not really relevant at all when CCP has an explicit policy regarding reimbursements and large scale fleet warfare. And yes, they should have absolutely anticipated it.

Node stayed up, despite massive overload. Seems pretty clear to me that you're not correct.

Yes.
It's old, old news that when you hit certain densities for concurrent players and ships on a Node, lag sets in. The numbers of pilots and the kinds of ships deployed were clearly kown to all fleets. If they couldn't connect the dots, well, they need a bit of upgrade to their FC skills then, don't they?

Atop that, Server failure appearst to have been *expected* and deliberately so. Yet despite repeated waves of drones dropped and abandoned, in what looks VERY much like an deliberte attempt to crash the Node to many outside observers, the Node stayed up. Working BETTER than intended. Which was NOT anticipated.

Yes, why DO you continue, since it is clear that the game doesn't cater to you, peronslly?

When CCP need a quick marketing solution, they always have goons..
CCP likes goons.

If bringing your teammates into the fight to help is considered a mistake, EVE is not worth anyones time.

Perhaps they should not reimburse anyone due to the policy, however to claim the FC's should have known the server will bug out and therefore should not have helped their teammates is beyond unreasonable.

If the server cannot handle the load, the server should not be attempting to jump all 700 in at once. You cannot expect players to know if they can bring in 300 vs 500 vs 700; ridiculous. That is CCP's responsibility. You're effectively arguing that if one side brings in 80% of the node's load before the second side does, the second side should automatically be destroyed as the server cannot handle the second side's reinforcements. That's not fun, fair or exciting.

So, I did some reading:





These sections of the policy are clearly at odds with each other in some situations. Just because CCP has arbitrarily given itself a lot of latitude in this matter doesn't make it a good way to interact with customers. CCP is saying "YOU are responsible for OUR technical failings". I'm sorry if I'm not seeing your point; all I have to draw on is my 8 years as a software developer, and that M.O. has never been acceptable on any of the projects I've ever worked on.

I'm not saying that CCP should up and magically fix their servers, because I know that's not possible. But CCP not reimbursing those dreads in the interest of maintaining the sandbox integrity is punishing the players for their own shortcomings.