Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Real Estate Market

As various corps and alliances acquire plants and moos with all there structures well anywhere, it would be a useful means of selling or renting out anything from Starbases to POCO's easily in a secure and easy to find way

Lets go with an example: I go to a system and take control of all the POCO's and I grab a few empty moons, but I really don't want to operate out of that system so I want to sell or rent it to someone who will. Right now I guess if i wanted to do that I would have to go on the forum and sell it that way, which isn't very effective and maybe use brokers or trust to even get paid.

To make this easier to picture, the real estate system from the user perspective could operate in the same way as contracts, you type in a system name and if any structure is up for sale/rent it will appear for that system.

Buy a structure: Open the contract see price, an accept contract, structure is yours to operate as you like.

Renting a structure: Renting out a structure depending on the contract, so you Rent a POCO for 30 days before you buy it, you can set tax and access as you like for the time of rent then when it reverts back the original owners control and settings if you don't extend. What happens in wars could make for some interesting discussions, but I wont fully discuss it now, but I think once you rent it you are responsible for the structures defence and if it is lost you pay the compensation set on the rental contract or you don't get back your deposit .

Sell/Rent a structure: should be something only a CEO or Director can do within a corp, there could be an option added to the right click menu on the structure that brings up the Sell page, fill in details and accept the contract creation, then sit back and wait for someone to buy it.

This system would be a useful addition to Eve, as right now there is no good way of doing this it all relies on trust and as much as I like to see the good in my fellow Eve players I would like to make life easier for us all and create a new market for us all to enter into. I can see this as a means of doing many things and giving new opportunities, being able to sell or rent anything from a POCO to a 0.0 system with sov could make things really interesting.

so you're renting space.. in space. Really seems like bringing nullsec to highsec that way.

If you are renting the structure, it isn't yours, so the onus of defence is on the owner. After all, the owner could be a griefer, get you a basic tower with no defense mods, and then use the rental money you gave him to pop the tower. Now you owe the griefer a new tower, and have already paid rent. The griefer is up the cost of a tower, and all of its contents are on his KB. repeat.

You do this in nullsec, it will be a newest form of "suuure just pay us to join our massive coalition's space" just add, " here's a tower, don't mind the cyno, and ignore the cap fleet behind the scan inhibitor."

This just sounds like a better way of deffering costs, reducing risks and turning highsec into another "only renters need apply" zone.

People will be putting up towers as placeholders, and not even onlining them, and suddenly all moons within x jumps of jita are claimed. If a rental contract is signed, griefer corps watching the landlords contract history and not even related to the renter or rentee will wardec, legitimately blow up your rented station and you'll have to pay out. If the landlord has to defend his own towers...
Well what kind of big blue donut do you want? A cake donut, with a highsec shaped hole, or a jelly donut, where highsec is just the sweet, sweet jelly.

If you are renting a POS, chances are very good you will not be able to defend it. If a system exists in eve, it will be abused.

High sec is a good place for this kind of thing and it isn't bringing 0.0 to it so much as giving new business opportunities to those pilots and corps who have high state standings who want to make some isk out of that ability for a start. But it also gives opportunities to small new corps who want to expand what they do with a reduced risk (which is relative).

Well I suppose there is risk in all things, so I see this as no different, I could make a number of suggestions as to how a lot of it could work but depending on how the contracts for this get worked out, you might not need to worry if some greafer kills the tower or whatever, if you plan ahead.

Finally just because a feature can be exploited in some way doesn't mean you shouldn't make it, look at the war dec system

Firstly wardec is badly misbalanced and not working correctly, but I wont digress more than that on that subject here.

Your question what will happen if large 0.0 power blocks get hold of the system? is what I think you are asking here.

Answer: Nothing they already have control over everything they are going to so i don't see things changing that much under this system, only change is it will be easier to find locations or gain access to your first piece of real estate in high sec. Large 0.0 power blocks grabbed all the POCO's near the trade hubs day one when that changed, we all knew it would happen and it did, so like all big business those who have the money will exploit that fact cant stop that. Doesn't mean the rest of us cant try and many did might have been futile and painful but at least those individuals tried to make a mark even if it was brief. At the end of the day if you don't think you can compete with them then don't, just join a 0.0 power block and gain access to all these things.

Small starting corps don't have to set up 3 jumps form Jita either there is a lot of empty empire space where if they could gain access to a POS they can start to make ISK so they can progress up to being a bigger corp maybe one day form a an alliance and then maybe in time they become powerful enough to take on a 0.0 power block. At the end of the day it is all about the effort you put in you work hard you get results, or you land in the gutter but at least you have to try, this isn't about having everything handed to you, this is about business.

Here I am only suggesting a tool that would make it easier to transfer structures to make profit, at the end of the day the system is only going to be a tool, it will have features to make it give anyone the power to set terms and conditions that benefit them, but at the end of the day it is no more threatening or evil than the current contract system.