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Dark Voynix
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-11-24 11:52:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Dark Voynix
Out of curiosity, supposing that somebody is so crazy to put that pricey ship solo in a wormhole. Roll

How this ship is able to hit small sleepers? Kronos have tracking bonus and 90%web. With the incoming hybrid tracking changes it will able to track well enough small targets with just 1 web or would need 2 webs? Someone have any practical experience on it?

p.s) I know that T3 cruisers are better ..
Da Banker
De Bank
#2 - 2011-11-24 16:28:56 UTC
You know what drones are right?
Dark Voynix
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-11-24 16:58:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Dark Voynix
Da Banker wrote:
You know what drones are right?


of course i do. I have 8M skill points in drones alone, but you seems not aware that sleepers tend to attack drones.
Doesn't happens much in anomalies sites, but on the other i saw drones insta-killed the moment i dropped them off.

In some situations they can be used, in other definitely not, and having 4x small sleepers scrambling you without being able to kill them with guns and popping your drones even before they leave you hangar is not fun.


I'm confident you can clear class 1 and 2 systems easilly just with drones, but we dont need a bs for that. a regular BS is more than enough. Since i was talking about a marauder i was impliing some more serious class 3 sites ( class 4 are far too hard for any solo ship)
Cypher Decypher
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2011-11-24 17:11:16 UTC
Marauders were the fancy ship of choice for solo C3 anomaly farmers when w-space was first introduced. They were cheaper than the first T3's for a while, although they needed pimping. You could partly drone tank as well, with 25 cheap T1 lights in the drone bay.

C3 Sleeper frigates are easily hit. Dual Fed Navy webs on a lvl 5 Kronos reduces a Sleeper frigate to a virtual standstill. You can hit them with large Rails.

However they soon became actively hunted by small pvp gangs. Even a solo pvp Domi could easily take down an active tanked Marauder with a couple of heavy neuts. So Marauders lost their appeal, and T3 ships got cheaper.

But yes, you can't really solo say an FFRD mag site in a Kronos. Not without at least having a gang booster in system, and a lot of cap 800's in your bay to offset the last wave's neuting.

Far easier & cheaper to take three T2-fitted rr Domi's. And there are plenty of players running 2, 3 or more accounts for that nowadays.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-11-24 17:44:44 UTC
Dark Voynix wrote:
Out of curiosity, supposing that somebody is so crazy to put that pricey ship solo in a wormhole. Roll

How this ship is able to hit small sleepers? Kronos have tracking bonus and 90%web. With the incoming hybrid tracking changes it will able to track well enough small targets with just 1 web or would need 2 webs? Someone have any practical experience on it?

p.s) I know that T3 cruisers are better ..


First you need to know the WH type and his advantages/drawbacks on your fittings, then we can talk Blink
Dark Voynix
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-11-25 09:28:13 UTC
thanks so far for the replies.

@tania: actually im not in any WH, so ill have first to find one. It was a generic discussion. You could it consider as a classic class 3 without any 2affecting effects". Im wella vare that some of them give bonus/penalties in armour or shield tanking.

@cypher: So in conclusion without gang booster and withour a huge number of cap booster even a marauder could not handle some of the more difficult cosmic sites?

I did some WH roaming something like 1 year ago. Things are really that different now? 1 year ago there was roaming gang looking for explorers but with some care was possible to find emply WH. What i have toe expect nowadays ? gull hangs in any WH looking for players 24/24, or there is still some chanche to be able to roam sites in peace?
Cypher Decypher
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2011-11-25 13:02:56 UTC
Apocrypha March '09 - w-spce and T3 production. Sleepers neuted you but not too badly.

Pimped Marauders were widely used to run C3 anomalies in about 15 minutes per. Good isk and worth the risk.

Dominion December '09 - (I *think*) Sleeper neuting somehow got broke.

Marauders could now run low-end C3 mag & radar sites. But growing population of low-end C systems and T3 ships becoming cheaper meant they were no longer FOTM.

Jan '11 - Sleeper neuting fixed, and properly. Now Tengus, Legions and Lokis are the only ships that can solo these sites efficiently (ie. you could use a Drake but it will take forever), even then with a warpout or two in the evil FFRD's last wave where every rat neuts you.

In short, w-space is no longer a place where you come across solo farmers regularly. Plus, the players who live there have become more savvy. They guard K162's. They farm in gangs.

That's not to say there isn't plenty of PvP - far from it. What it does mean is that you're far more likely to see a bunch of Drakes running anoms & sites than a solo T3. And I haven't seen a Marauder farming for well over a year.

Could eg. a Kronos run the FFRD mag site? I suppose so. After all, it's all about the scramming frigs. As long as they're dealt with, you can GTFO and come back with more cap. I don't know f the Rail buff extends to large railguns, but if it does I'd be tempted to test that out.

On SiSi :)
Dark Voynix
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-11-25 13:50:18 UTC
ok, understood.

Thx again :)