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James Nikolas Tesla
Tesla Holdings
#1 - 2014-01-26 06:55:26 UTC  |  Edited by: James Nikolas Tesla
I've been thinking of this idea for quite some time and have beat out some rough numbers for a versatile battleship hull of ORE design that can be used for mining, mining fleet defence, or somewhere in between.

Name: Bulwark

Tech Level: 1

H - 4
M - 5
L - 5

Turret Hardpoints - 2

Cargo Hold - 500
Ore Hold - 20,000 m^3
Drone Bay - 125 m^3
Drone Bandwidth - 125 mbps

Shield - 3500
Armor - 4500
Structure - 4000

Rig Size - Large

Velocity - 60 m/s

Lock Range - 50 km

Role Bonus

100% increase in large turret damage
50% increase in large turret optimal and falloff range

Mining Barge Skill Bonus

10% Increased scan range for Survey Scanners per level
20% Increased range of Strip Miners per level
5% increase of mining crystal effectiveness per level.

Skill Requirements: Mining Barge III and its prerequisite skills


T2 version would have slightly better stats in some aspects and have the ability to fit Mining Forman Links.
The skill requirements would be Exhumers I or III, Mining Director I, and Leadership I.

Exhumers Skill Bonus
5% increase to Ore Hold capacity per level
2% Bonus to Mining Foreman Link efficacy per level

Any ideas for suggestions/changes are welcome.

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Ashala Arcsylver
Gypsy Rose Mining
#2 - 2014-01-26 06:59:11 UTC
This at least makes more sense than the current version of the SOE battleship.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#3 - 2014-01-26 08:09:45 UTC
What makes this ship worth the cost of ganking it?

Oh god.
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#4 - 2014-01-26 08:18:51 UTC
Why not, Mining Marauders was already suggested and damn we Love the idea, some mining Domi (sry) i mean Battleship would be cool.

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HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#5 - 2014-01-26 08:32:00 UTC  |  Edited by: HandelsPharmi
Your battle ship could fit 4 Strip Miners.
A Hulk can fit 3 Strip Miners.

Hulk's boni are: 15 % from Mining Barge 5 and 15 % from Exhumers 5.
3*1.15*1.15 = 3.9675

It would be better, if you ccould fit Modulated Deep Core Miner T2 with crystals only!
- Like the Veldnaught :)



comparing the moduls without ANY boni (imps, fleet, ships...)

Modulated Strip Core MIner: 360 m³ + 360 m³ (+ crystal bonus) = max. 990.0 m³
vs.
Modulated Deep Core Miner: 250 m³ + 250 m³ (+ crystal bonus) = max. 687.5 m³
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-01-26 08:59:31 UTC
i'd accept any new mining ship!
but make it require exhumers 5.

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HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#7 - 2014-01-26 09:06:24 UTC  |  Edited by: HandelsPharmi
or even more difficult... plus Deep Core Mining Level 5
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#8 - 2014-01-26 09:15:30 UTC
That all sounds very lovely, but what is the incentive to gank it?

Oh god.
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#9 - 2014-01-26 09:20:10 UTC
Salvage? Killmails? Ore? da lulz? ^^

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#10 - 2014-01-26 09:23:00 UTC
I had something a bit more rewarding in mind.

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Johann Rascali
The Milkmen
Sedition.
#11 - 2014-01-26 09:40:55 UTC
Pretty much the same reward you get from ganking regular barges. Don't see why one should be different from the others.

Blanking signatures doesn't seem to work, so this is here.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#12 - 2014-01-26 09:52:30 UTC
Because it has a lot more tank than a regular barge and costs a lot more to destroy.

Oh god.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2014-01-26 11:08:22 UTC
More tank, more cargo and more yield than any of the current barges.

Where's the downside? Do you want to replace every mining ship with one of these?
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#14 - 2014-01-26 11:21:50 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
More tank, more cargo and more yield than any of the current barges.

Where's the downside? Do you want to replace every mining ship with one of these?

HandelsPharmi wrote:

It would be better, if you ccould fit Modulated Deep Core Miner T2 with crystals only!
- Like the Veldnaught :)

comparing the moduls without ANY boni (imps, fleet, ships...)

Modulated Strip Core MIner: 360 m³ + 360 m³ (+ crystal bonus) = max. 990.0 m³
vs.
Modulated Deep Core Miner: 250 m³ + 250 m³ (+ crystal bonus) = max. 687.5 m³


compared to a skiff it would be 66.0 % efficient, 34 % less than the tanky skiff
and if you want to fit weapons, you will sacrifice a slot for your mining lasers
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#15 - 2014-01-26 11:28:29 UTC
HandelsPharmi wrote:
if you want to fit weapons, you will sacrifice a slot for your mining lasers

No one is going to fit weapons. All you're going to do is mine AFK in perfect safety which is why it needs to have an incentive for gankers.

Oh god.
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#16 - 2014-01-26 11:32:22 UTC  |  Edited by: HandelsPharmi
Skiff has MORE EHP than this slowboating battleship
but less cargo (15k vs. 20k m³)

stats:
Mining BS
Shield - 6000
Armor - 6000
Structure - 6000

Rig Size - Large


vs.
Skiff
shield / armor / hull
8125 / 5500 / 6000
plus 20 % shield resistance

if the BS hull would cost around 500 Mio (ORE LP shop, best idea!)
it would be a better target for gankers but on the other side a BS for defense in the belt
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#17 - 2014-01-26 11:39:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
How often are Skiffs suicide ganked? Actually, looking at it in EFT, a Skiff can't even fit an LSE so I'm not convinced it has more EHP than this BS, not to mention it has 5 low slots.

Oh god.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#18 - 2014-01-26 11:40:05 UTC
HandelsPharmi wrote:
if the BS hull would cost around 500 Mio (ORE LP shop, best idea!)
it would be a better target for gankers

How?

Oh god.
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#19 - 2014-01-26 11:43:03 UTC  |  Edited by: HandelsPharmi
give it a bonus like:

+xx % per level if there are any ORE Strip Miners fitted

it should have less EHP than a Skiff!
they are expensive and would make it a profitable suicide gank target

less EHP, more expensive
less yield, higher requirements

Riot Girl wrote:
How often are Skiffs suicide ganked? Actually, looking at it in EFT, a Skiff can't even fit an LSE so I'm not convinced it has more EHP than this BS, not to mention it has 5 low slots.


We are here to discuss it, it should have LESS EHP in the end, maybe by lowering the base values and adding the abbility to ad up to 5 med slots with LSE.

The yield shoult be a ~10 % higher than in a skiff if you fit 4 Mining Laser Upgrades.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#20 - 2014-01-26 11:54:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
HandelsPharmi wrote:
+xx % per level if there are any ORE Strip Miners fitted

So these ORE strip miners will be very expensive faction mods that get extra mining bonuses? Well it would make the ship a far more appealing target, however it comes at a cost of buffing the mining yield of the whole of New Eden, which may have serious repercussions.

HandelsPharmi wrote:
The yield shoult be a ~10 % higher than in a skiff if you fit 4 Mining Laser Upgrades.

But only with faction mods.

Well I don't really care about this BS idea much, but I definitely like the idea of expensive faction mods for miners and will +1 that part.

Oh god.
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