Player Features and Ideas Discussion

War deccing is broken, almost to a surreal extent. In high sec, small industrial corps are war decced repeatedly for no other purpose than to cause grief. The ward deccers--if looking at their killboards are any indication--are cowards, never attacking a low sec corp, or even the more potent high sec corps.

War dec after war dec after war dec. It has all become rather tiresome, even disheartening. My corp alone has endured a war dec almost every other week since the early summer.

Some--most, perhaps-- war deccing corps will issue war decs against multiple corps at once: XXX XXXX just issued war decs against 23 corps and alliances simultaneously. Why? For the lulz, and to generate a superficially more attractive resume, I imagine. Of course, all the corps that they are 'fighting' (do they ever leave major hubs?) are small industrial corps.

Some suggestions:

--No corp/alliance should be permitted to issue more than three concurrent war declarations.

--The aggressor must deposit into a CONCORD trust account enough isk to cover a war for a month of renewals. As it is now, a corp issues a war dec, and after a week, the war is usually allowed to lapse. Wars should not just lapse because the aggressor loses interest; the aggressor must either surrender with consequences, or be forced to pay repeatedly for a month for the continuance of the war.

--The 'alts' of the war deccing corporations should all be identified to the defenders. As it stands now, any single war deccer is accompanied by two neutral logistics alts who suddenly appear 80 kms away, with repping so over-powered that an Atron can destroy a Dominix.

--War dec fees are too low by a factor of ten. Only 50 million isk to dec an entire alliance for a week is nonsensical.

Hiring mercenaries is not an answer. Joining larger alliances is not the answer. HTFU is not the answer. High sec war deccing is broken, and it is used primarily to abuse, grief, and harass others.

Summary: High sec war deccing is broken. It is an instrument for griefers to constantly harass industrialists, miners, and missioners. Unable to survive the travails of low and null, they repeatedly war dec those least inclined to fight. War decs should have strict limits and significant consequences for the aggressors.

High sec wardecs are so easy to avoid, they are broken.

additional suggestions:

- starbases cannot be taken down during a wardec
- alts of defenders are flagged as targets
- station services including hangars defenders have assets in are flagged as targets and can be destroyed
- corps can't be remade to shed decs, all defenders are flagged even if they drop corp
- targets are marked on the ingame map for the aggressors
- defenders have to pay for the dec when they lose

- when a dec is made, defenders are automatically unsubbed from eve and subbed into world of warcraft

+1

Or when a character drops Corp due to wardec the ceo should be able to add a deserter tag to the gutless, offending character so that future ceos can easily determine their worth.

op htfu etc.

Try ewar vs rr alts.

especially as ccp described the wardec fee as 'paying for targets'

you know what? if someone drops corp you should be fully refunded. you may have wardecced an entire alliance just for the opportunity to shoot that one person, after all

i am so full of good ideas today

If people really wanted to PvP against people who can actually shoot back they can just join FW for free. Better than free, in fact, because they can actually make money off all the LP.

So in a sense OP is right about one thing: Wardecs are the sole domain of griefers, because the real PvPers - those with the spine to fight people who can fight back - are either in FW or out fighting nullsec wars.

High sec greifing made possible for low payment of 50 mil

**** everyone dec everything (also awox)

Where the **** have you been?

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