Player Features and Ideas Discussion

CCP should use this as their new marketing campaign. Forget "Eve is real!"

"Eve is beer!" has a much better ring to it.

You are missing the point completely. Eve is a game where you have to understand a complex world and be willing to take risks. Learn the world and then you can manage the risks. But sitting in high sec waiting for your skills to be all Level V won't make you any better at Eve. Get out and learn the game mechanics. Not everyone has to get tons of kills to be successful at Eve, but you do have to learn how the game works. You seem more interested in trying to cram a round peg into a square hole than just learning the game.

And seriously, check out Eve University. I was never part of it, but many members of my corporation were. They all learned a great deal about Eve from being in EU before jumping into the deep end of the pool.

They cheat in the trailers for years to attract people. Let alone the shown maneuverability of the ships. Or the banner of Rubicon. What are the races of the female and the male and where are the clothes of the female or the flames coming out of the SoE ship?

highly disagree

EvE is the ONLY MMO where there are more than enough content for solo players, easy ? not all, but is there stuff to do? yes you can pretty much do most of everything in EvE solo and some of the greatest moments in life are when you do things alone.

Exactly. This is my point. Your freedom is limited to what the code provides you to do, so you cannot do what you want or how you want, de facto. You cannot combine cloak and assault ship nor provides the cloak a useful combat function. Or you cannot use the environment for your advandage. You have no fun exploring the universe because - if you watch Sci Fi movies or series - you find nothing interesting and unique except for this prepared sites (As example the EVE gate. I was so excited how it looks like and I was a little bit disappointed at the end. Does someone played the Microsoft game "Freelancer"? What have you felt as you have found the Hispania? Such moments.). CCP misses to renew and expand the code and mechanics of the game while they implant shiny new and cool superficialities.

I see EVE Online is too static filled with dungeons and arenas/duells. In my eyes it needs two new mechanics. First this "push"-mechanics how I called them, which brings these mass into motion. You can imagine them as many rotors in a pool of a fluid mass. If you start the rotors streams emerge. This streams are the things people do, together or alone, and other people were carried away. CCP refuses to do it because they want that the player write their own stories, so to speak. But I think a game, and this is a game, need such artifical "assist-starting" which also holds the flow in motion.
The second one is the framework mechanic. This includes such things I said at first. Possiblities so to speak, breaking the restricts the game has to give the player more variations to act in the game and with the game. I think CCP thinks in the same direction as they created the SoE ships which combine combat and exploring.

With these two mechanics pillars CCP should be able to implant new content - real content - into the game. The mechanics itselfs should also be easily to expand. If CCP implants new content into the game it is conneted with the "push"-mechanics which bring the people to it and the framework which allows the people to play with it like the want. I think CCP needs to go down into the dark catacombs of the foundation of the game and working their, primarily.

My point is not that PvP is bad. My point it that the possibilities of the game for solo player AND multiplayer needs to be expand, so all of us have fun with the game. Whether you like to play alone and go your own way or whether you like to play with others. At the end, we all play together, whether we play alone or not. You guys constructed my ship and collected the ressources for the construction process. And some day, CCP will remove the NPCs and this whole universe is filled with humans only. But it needs the mechanics I mentioned, in my eyes. The whole life is full of them. EVE now is a little bit like, you were born and are free to do what you want from this moment on. What would you do and how would the world looks like?

I play solo a lot. Simply because I have the same time zone than russians and I don't speek russian.
If Eve is hard to play solo, it is because it is a MMO. You should not play this game solo. If you do, it will be hard because the others will not be solo. It is quite logic and fair. Make with it or play solo game...
Most of the time it is possible to find something to engage solo. ECM (Damn Falcons) are my bigger problem because of their gameplay but you just have to move away if it is not to late when the Falcon appears...

I hope you realize you're playing a multiplayer game. This isn't a bug, it's a feature.

This. Why ccp can't balance for solo. Make say my wolf uber for solo pvp that kills 4 other frigates real easy....well then a 4 man man roam with the same wolf is now stomping my ass even harder.


Tactics exist for this even. Stringing out players if mastered works some wonders. Came across some pro's at this a few times. Say 5 of us. they burn off...see who catches up first being the fastest and pops them if he can. burn off...next fastest guy gets his shot. Maybe goes boom. 3rd, 4th, etc.

basically no one is making you land and stay in the center of a 5 man roam. String them out, see what shakes loose.

The think is, the PvP policy makes thinks valueless. The risk thing is fine. This is space. And if I would have endless money, I also would have no limits by taking risks and challenge everyone I meat. But if you play solo and have not the real money to buy and sell lots of PLEXes and if you want to achieve thinks within the game (what CCP promotes for the game "The Universe is yours") your assets and also ships get a greater value. I think many player think like this. They do not want to loose numbers of ships. They pay for game time with real money, so also for the time they need to earn ISK for a ship etc.. And mostly people are proud if they achieved something with their own efforts and they do not want to loose it in the same moment. If you have not built a strong foundation to get money (mining etc.) it needs lots of game time to replace a ship. Of course, it is exciting to loose something and start from scrath. And yes, you should not fly what you cannot replace. But with these policy you get problems with harder missions, sites etc. if you need a better ship. If you always fly the cheapest ship with the cheapest stuff you also have no fun with the game and nothing you can strive for. So you save money for a stronger ship. And damned, you do not want to loose it. I am not interested in what the CCP employees saying what the EVE Online philosophy might be. They can give themselfs endless money and maybe they play for free. I do not know.

If CCP gives the game an economy, a market and money they need to give the things a value. Value is defined by the people. Money is only a placeholder for value. Selling PLEXes is a little bit like cheating. Has a little bit of a Pay2Win character. Of course nobody forces you to do this. But if you spend month to save money for a ship and you loose it, you do not want to sit again for month and real money and life time in a mining barge because you do not pay for the game with real money and life time to wait before you can do for which purpose you pay for the game. Than you buy a PLEX to correct your mistake. At least I do it in this way.

I see a disbalance in this policy. I do not know in which countries you all live and how much money you have or want to spend for a online game. But EVE Online need to give me a lot more possibilities before I spend more than 1 PLEX every month. But it is the only good online space game on the market, in my eyes.

In high sec the income is too low to constantly replace expensive ships. And most of them are really expensive including also the modules and weapons. You need to go to low and null sec to increase the income and there the PvP policy graps you. In high sec you can fly endless with your ship without risking to loose it, if you know what you are doing. But in low and null sec you can loose your ship every day and mostly you face groups of players instead of other lone sharks. And for a solo player loosing an expensive ship is hard. So they stay in high sec or they use PLEXes.

I play EVE for years. Until a certain point the gains-expenses-balance was good. But at a certain point you get not enough ISK (in High sec) to buy better stuff to do harder things. It becomes too expensive to fully replace a ship and need to much time to save the money and you are afraid of loosing the ship. Now this is the point to move to low and null sec. But with what ship? If I loose it I have nothing and I stuck for month in mining before I get a new ship (I prefer battle cruisers). So you need to group with others as solo player to increase your chances to survive to have more of your gains. You can buy more ships etc etc.

I am not afraid of taking risks. But I do not want to do boring stuff for month to earn enough money to replace a ship only because of these capitalist PvP policy produces such attrition warfare.

And with that I come back to the topic. CCP should not promote the game as suitable for (none rich) solo player as long as they do not put in mechanics so we also can survive without a risk of loosing the ship of 80-90%. I gave examples. So the ship gets a value not only for solo player instead of these attrition warfare. Or they remove the ISK. Than I am the first in null sec.

I like working alone and being self-sufficient. But the cold hard truth is that just as in real life you still depend on others. There is a lot you can do alone, but it is more enjoyable with other players. It can take awhile to find the right group of people, but eventually, if you try, you can find a group that you fit well with and that fits well with you.

If you want to do everything solo.... why are you playing EVE Online? X is a better solo game.