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Right instead of less than 100 Maels per Carrier now you need less than 300. Good thing you can bring 1000.

You didn't bring 1K domi...

Ok that's it. I'm getting dumber with every reply and you just proved that you'll make anything even if it's the most ******** thing ever only not to accept the facts.
If you really believe in what you are making up then all I can say is thank you to the lords of eve for guiding me away from your alliance. You guys are plain quarterbrainers.

For my last post of the night! (yay no more work!)

If these Carriers are so OP and have no counter....why does the CFC not use them in numbers they should be capable of. It was over a year ago we were promised a Boot in every hanger, so mostly all CFC pilots should have one now right? If you can field 700 Dreads why are you not helicopter dicking these Carriers all over nullsec?

CFC, you have every advantage here. You have limitless money and limitless pilots with the skills to fly a maelstrom. You can field 700 dreads, and you have more of every type of capital ship than the N3. You can't fit everything you've got in system at once, but you don't need to.

1000 maelstroms will kill the slowcat fleet eventually, as it only takes 300 maelstroms to alpha a maxed skilled archon in a perfect setup. Losses would be heavy, but a maelstrom costs 1/10th of an archon and is a lot faster to replace. You would win in the long run.

You have also shown you can field 500+ dreads. The irony of HED is that the tactic you had was actually a good one, it's just your implementation that was bad. Your dreads would have died in the end, but not before they had taken all the N3 dreads and most of the slowcats with them. If you engaged the slowcats during an off timezone when both your numbers were lower you would have much better success as the slowcats scale much better with numbers than your dreads do.

You could use slowcats yourself. Reinforce an N3 staging system, put 500 goon boots on the station and wait and see what N3 do. If they manage to kill you, you know how to kill them. If N3 can't kill you, then you win the war the same way they were going to.

Finally you could not fight them at all. The slowcat fleet can only be in one place at once. You have ridiculous numbers of pilots and can be in multiple places at once. You also have the un-killable siege fleet available. Reinforce everything, see where the slowcats land, and go somewhere else. If the slowcat fleet splits up, you can pin one half down and kill the other. Immobility is their biggest weakness.

These are all valid counters. The fact that N3 might adapt is not a reason these counters "won't work". The fact that these counters are contrary to your narrative is also not a reason they "won't work". You haven't tried any of them properly yet. The only conclusion I can draw is that you're deliberately not doing it. You want to lose as much as possible by welping interdictors/MWD drakes so that CCP will nerf slowcats/titans and you can win the war against N3/Raiden.

I find it funny that we're discussing Maelstroms when we're pushing dudes to train into upsized Maels

Why field a thousand Maels when you can instead drop a pile of Nags?

Thats half the point, you're pushing dudes into big ass Maels while trying to fight in Domis against things Domis aren't really great at fighting (caps) when you have other ship comps that would work better against the caps but because of some "drones are bad we need them nerfed" campaign you're on you wont use anything but Domis.


If you could put 1k Maels and then 300 nags on field you would be teh king of alpha.

Wow. Read this whole thing. All of you people really ***** a lot.

Aha baltec1 and andski flat out lying in almost every second post they made, and boy did they post a lot, shocking? No, just standard goon behavior,they do the same to their members and they happily swallow all the feces they get served like good drones do.

Goons want to be able to blap carriers from a save distance without any losses that's their idea of a counter, unfortunately EvE does not really work that way, risk vs reward, the mantra they always sing to mock high sec dwellers only when it involves themselves they cry and whine and create more tears than the river Styx could hold.

Statements being made by goons:
Super are no counter, we can´t drop supers since the others have more and to risk to lose ours is not an option.
Maels/Tornados are no counter since we need to sit at 180km to avoid taking losses.
We couldn´t cyno in the dreads in HED on another grid since they might have been counter dropped on the wrong grid.

"In a nutshell we want to win through sheer numbers and we want to do so by losing nothing! We also want it as easy mode as possible without tactics just horde swarm everything!" Risk aversion at its finest!

Next time 200 Domis. And 800 max Cruise Range Ravens (over 220K). Keep the Domis with the Ravens.

Support Fleet (junkers in Celestis) and Drone Assist hang inside domi control range(Screen Fleet for their drones/drone assist/subcaps/firewall). Put Bubbles around so you can catch bombers and F1 your way to victory. Then everyone can watch netflix while 3-4 people actually play the game.

And if you do it right...CFC can even bring in CR dreads. Or LR Dreads.

SEND ISK TO ME! 500Beez.

Congratulations to CFC for winning with no significant losses.

So by your logic sov wars are now to be decided by who gets into system first and fills it up enough that the opposing force has no way to challenge? Great logic.