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So Drones do CAUSE LAG... Interesting..

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#241 - 2014-01-25 03:44:37 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:


Way to just sperge out in anger without addressing any of the things that detail how wrong you are about everything Baltec. The BOTlord thing must really be burning you up inside.


Your numbers are just as wrong as the ones you used with the 100 maelstroms.


Ok, show me where my math is wrong, I'll wait, you can make it a long post.


You do not take into account losses, you ignore resists when working out how many maelstroms you need, you do not take into account your own subcaps, you do not take into accout that multiple fleets will have to target a single carrier.
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#242 - 2014-01-25 03:45:29 UTC  |  Edited by: PinkPanter
Grath Telkin wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

CCP will change things, having subcap domination in a fight will mean your capitals are at risk and you will pull out and leave N3 to burn.


3-1 / 4-1 is that your tactical domination on field and that is why you want to nerf this game again so you can simply out blob everybody? Damn you guys are really scared of us lol.


Welcome to talking to Baltec1, the guy who thinks that he with the most numbers should always win


I would understand his fears if we were all even on numbers. Yes. ***** all you want but damn thy have similar cap fleet (not counting dreads as they own us in this field I guess) yet they are shitless scared to play a VIDEO GAME. I really can't comprehend this lol and I'm reading kugu, here, alliance forums, evenews, thmittani and everywhere I hear the same literally brainwashed wall of bullshit. I'm starting to think that maybe I'm stupid and 1+1 doesn't equal 2 anymore.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#243 - 2014-01-25 03:46:33 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:



But why talk real talk after all with Baltec1s revisionst history in 6VDT it isn't a stretch that you can revise some highsec scrubs EVEO Forum trip to 0.0.



What revisionist history?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#244 - 2014-01-25 03:48:26 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
I sold my titan last year and think they should be removed from the game since CCP wont give them a fun role to have, sorry to let you down bud.


That's fine, because if/when I get a titan (which would probs have to be a hand-me-down from another director because **** everything about making ISK without scamming) I intend to use it for supporting my alliance. I literally do not have a problem with tying down one of my characters in a mobile jump bridge.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#245 - 2014-01-25 03:48:52 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
PinkPanter wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

CCP will change things, having subcap domination in a fight will mean your capitals are at risk and you will pull out and leave N3 to burn.


3-1 / 4-1 is that your tactical domination on field and that is why you want to nerf this game again so you can simply out blob everybody? Damn you guys are really scared of us lol.


Welcome to talking to Baltec1, the guy who thinks that he with the most numbers should always win


I would understand his fears if we were all even on numbers. Yes. ***** all you want but damn thy have similar cap fleet (not counting dreads as they own us in this field I guess) yet they are shitless scared to play a VIDEO GAME. I really can't comprehend this lol and I'm reading kugu, here, alliance forums, evenews, thmittani and everywhere I hear the same literally brainwashed wall of bullshit. I'm starting to thing that maybe I'm stupid and 1+1 doesn't equal 2 anymore.


If its BS why is CCP making changes and agreeing with us on how drones are currently massively braking things?

Looks to me like people are desperately trying to keep their overpowered toys.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#246 - 2014-01-25 03:49:15 UTC
Andski wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
You mean to tell me all of those fleets lead by utterly dominating FC DBRB which alphaed carriers were all trolls?


Alphaing slowcats is a completely different ballgame than alphaing IT triage carriers


So is Goonswarm 2014. Haven't you checked your PAP statistics recently?
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#247 - 2014-01-25 03:49:29 UTC
baltec1 wrote:


You do not take into account losses, you ignore resists when working out how many maelstroms you need, you do not take into account your own subcaps, you do not take into accout that multiple fleets will have to target a single carrier.



Lets see, I dont take into account losses, except for in that post I actually track the loss rate for both sides, I ignore resists, no, if I were ignoring resists the numbers I gave for the dead and dying would be higher and according to you our sub caps are nothing to be concerned of, easily swept out of the way of you and yours, and finally, no, sorry, multiple fleets do NOT have to target the same carrier, what about this do you not get bro?

So please, lets see some of your numbers to discount my numbers

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Mario Putzo
#248 - 2014-01-25 03:49:47 UTC
Here guys https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=247737 my Highsec fleet to Null. Andski thought it was important. enjoy!
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#249 - 2014-01-25 03:50:08 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

CCP will change things, having subcap domination in a fight will mean your capitals are at risk and you will pull out and leave N3 to burn.


3-1 / 4-1 is that your tactical domination on field and that is why you want to nerf this game again so you can simply out blob everybody? Damn you guys are really scared of us lol.


Welcome to talking to Baltec1, the guy who thinks that he with the most numbers should always win


I would understand his fears if we were all even on numbers. Yes. ***** all you want but damn thy have similar cap fleet (not counting dreads as they own us in this field I guess) yet they are shitless scared to play a VIDEO GAME. I really can't comprehend this lol and I'm reading kugu, here, alliance forums, evenews, thmittani and everywhere I hear the same literally brainwashed wall of bullshit. I'm starting to thing that maybe I'm stupid and 1+1 doesn't equal 2 anymore.


If its BS why is CCP making changes and agreeing with us on how drones are currently massively braking things?


Lag wise they have a point. Everything else is your incompetence as a video game player.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#250 - 2014-01-25 03:50:55 UTC
A full fleet of Maels at short range can alpha a 3m EHP slowcat c/d

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#251 - 2014-01-25 03:51:36 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:



But why talk real talk after all with Baltec1s revisionst history in 6VDT it isn't a stretch that you can revise some highsec scrubs EVEO Forum trip to 0.0.



What revisionist history?


its right here in this thread and was pointed out by multiple people, did you forget posting it?

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#252 - 2014-01-25 03:51:48 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Here guys https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=247737 my Highsec fleet to Null. Andski thought it was important. enjoy!



Without your last-minute edits: http://eve-search.com/thread/247737-1

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#253 - 2014-01-25 03:54:04 UTC
Andski wrote:
A full fleet of Maels at short range can alpha a 3m EHP slowcat c/d


You can only get one fleet of people? What's wrong, did you guys lose like 500 dreadnoughts or something?
Mario Putzo
#254 - 2014-01-25 03:55:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
Andski wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Here guys https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=247737 my Highsec fleet to Null. Andski thought it was important. enjoy!



Without your last-minute edits: http://eve-search.com/thread/247737-1


Last minute edits? That was an updated report following the fleet. Sorry for writing a report so the people who clicked on it knew it was over. My mistake Andski.

Also it seems most of us died to Talwars...what up?

Also sorry for having fun guys....I appologize for it.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#255 - 2014-01-25 03:59:04 UTC
Perhaps bluing a bunch of BOB pets to spite other members of your coalition and more importantly to keep numbers up isn't really working out for you.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#256 - 2014-01-25 03:59:23 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
Andski wrote:
A full fleet of Maels at short range can alpha a 3m EHP slowcat c/d


You can only get one fleet of people? What's wrong, did you guys lose like 500 dreadnoughts or something?


In this very thread, your CEO implied that each Mael fleet in a 1000 maelstrom blob can alpha a slowcat, while claiming to lowball the damage output (when he is in fact lowballing the EHP of the slowcats)

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#257 - 2014-01-25 04:00:50 UTC
Andski wrote:
A full fleet of Maels at short range can alpha a 3m EHP slowcat c/d


Slowcats have 3mil EHP c/d?

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#258 - 2014-01-25 04:01:20 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
Perhaps bluing a bunch of BOB pets to spite other members of your coalition and more importantly to keep numbers up isn't really working out for you.


lmao PL pulling the BoB narrative

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#259 - 2014-01-25 04:01:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Grath Telkin
Andski wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Andski wrote:
A full fleet of Maels at short range can alpha a 3m EHP slowcat c/d


You can only get one fleet of people? What's wrong, did you guys lose like 500 dreadnoughts or something?


In this very thread, your CEO implied that each Mael fleet in a 1000 maelstrom blob can alpha a slowcat, while claiming to lowball the damage output (when he is in fact lowballing the EHP of the slowcats)


Let me help, Slows don't have 3million hp unless you overheat their hardeners and add slaves, even under fleet bonuses and thats a damnation not a legion or another carrier like we normally use.


EDIT: To reach 3m hp, you need to overheat your hardners and have a damnation fleet boosting your ships, otherwise it doesn't happen at all

Our standard fit under standard bonuses when we jump in is 2.4 million.

EDIT: Oh lol i see, you must have EMP loaded firing into the ships highest resist to prove your point, definitely something smart to do, not use the Maels selectable damage out put to your advantage, what kind of moron would ever work to his ships strengths...

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Edmark I
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#260 - 2014-01-25 04:02:28 UTC
For those keeping score at home we've gone from:

1. You guys need to use caps, subcaps arent gonna do the job

2. Ok you guys used caps but you totally didnt do it right, no subcaps allowed zone

3. Maan you guys are dumb you could be killing this thing with subcaps

In a thread about how there was 84% more drones in HED than 6VDT What?