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So Drones do CAUSE LAG... Interesting..

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#221 - 2014-01-25 03:32:11 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:


More lies, you do have the numbers (10 times the numbers on average) and you haven't tried them to see if they work.


We would need 1500 maelstroms alone to stand a chance and even that probably wouldn't be enough. Unlike you, I take into account how many ships we would need for the whole battle.


AHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAAHA.

Man, thanks for that laugh, nice to know you literally know nothing about the game not handed directly to you.


So you think that we will be taking no losses while we wait for some of the slowest cycling guns in eve to cycle?


Let me help you, 1500 maels will kill a very minimum of 10 carriers every 19 seconds.

Assuming the average or 400 carriers, you will lose, going off current tactics of a single trigger per fleet 2 maels every 4 seconds, or about 10 every 20 seconds

So the trade rate is about the same.


Guess who runs out of killing power first in that situation by a mile?

Even if you were to back that down to 1000 Maels, a number that the CFC has proven time and again that they could come up with you would kill about 6 every 20 seconds, understand that these are lowball estimates on both accounts of Battleships and very precise estimates on the carriers (since I run those I know how fast they kill).

So you'll kill about 20 carriers a minute, and lose about 30 BS. In 5 minutes you still have 850 battleships and theres only 300 carriers left. 1 more minute and you have 700 BS and 200 carriers left. 1 more minute and you have 550 BS left and theres 100 carriers left.

Fight ending should still see you above 400 bs left.


And I lowballed your killing power in the BS alot.

Stop trying Baltec you simply do not understand the game you've been playing.


I understand it perfectly well. PL are well known for their utter inability at subcap fights no matter the numbers while we are well known for our utter domination at subcap fleets.

Your very posting in here insisting that 100 maelstroms are enough to kill your carriers show just how little you know about subcaps. This is why you always abandon your allies because we rip you a new one every time. This is the sixth time I have gone up against an overpowered capital fleet and I know exactly how it will go.

CCP will change things, having subcap domination in a fight will mean your capitals are at risk and you will pull out and leave N3 to burn.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#222 - 2014-01-25 03:34:11 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Just use Nados m8 they get a little bit less Alpha (like not much becuase its a 4 Gyro), and you are going to die if you get lit up anyway so why pay 3 times the price.

1500 Nados....just as good as 1500 Maels.

(I build Nados in Highsec! 10% off Jita price if you buy from me!)


The problem is that you have no idea what you're talking about

Nados would get killed while sitting on the titan bridging them

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#223 - 2014-01-25 03:34:17 UTC
baltec1 wrote:


I understand it perfectly well. PL are well known for their utter inability at subcap fights no matter the numbers while we are well known for our utter domination at subcap fleets.

Your very posting in here insisting that 100 maelstroms are enough to kill your carriers show just how little you know about subcaps. This is why you always abandon your allies because we rip you a new one every time. This is the sixth time I have gone up against an overpowered capital fleet and I know exactly how it will go.

CCP will change things, having subcap domination in a fight will mean your capitals are at risk and you will pull out and leave N3 to burn.


Way to just sperge out in anger without addressing any of the things that detail how wrong you are about everything Baltec. The BOTlord thing must really be burning you up inside.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#224 - 2014-01-25 03:35:46 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Just use Nados m8 they get a little bit less Alpha (like not much becuase its a 4 Gyro), and you are going to die if you get lit up anyway so why pay 3 times the price.

1500 Nados....just as good as 1500 Maels.

(I build Nados in Highsec! 10% off Jita price if you buy from me!)


Easier to bomb, cannot go toe to toe against BS fleets, will get wiped out by intercepter fleets all while getting killed in droves by the carriers.

Nados are not good for this kind of fight.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#225 - 2014-01-25 03:36:39 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:


Way to just sperge out in anger without addressing any of the things that detail how wrong you are about everything Baltec. The BOTlord thing must really be burning you up inside.


Your numbers are just as wrong as the ones you used with the 100 maelstroms.
Mario Putzo
#226 - 2014-01-25 03:36:44 UTC
Andski wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Just use Nados m8 they get a little bit less Alpha (like not much becuase its a 4 Gyro), and you are going to die if you get lit up anyway so why pay 3 times the price.

1500 Nados....just as good as 1500 Maels.

(I build Nados in Highsec! 10% off Jita price if you buy from me!)


The problem is that you have no idea what you're talking about

Nados would get killed while sitting on the titan bridging them


Only if you suck. But hey we wouldn't be on page 12 of a thread on EVEO if you didn't.
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#227 - 2014-01-25 03:36:55 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

CCP will change things, having subcap domination in a fight will mean your capitals are at risk and you will pull out and leave N3 to burn.


3-1 / 4-1 is that your tactical domination on field and that is why you want to nerf this game again so you can simply out blob everybody? Damn you guys are really scared of us lol.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#228 - 2014-01-25 03:39:38 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Find a counter to sentries

Counters to sentries only work when ships hold a reasonably small number of them. When you have ships that can hold 3,200 sentries each, the counter isn't exactly viable anymore.


Need drone bay then?

Oderint Dum Metuant
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#229 - 2014-01-25 03:39:39 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:


Way to just sperge out in anger without addressing any of the things that detail how wrong you are about everything Baltec. The BOTlord thing must really be burning you up inside.


Your numbers are just as wrong as the ones you used with the 100 maelstroms.


Ok, show me where my math is wrong, I'll wait, you can make it a long post.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#230 - 2014-01-25 03:40:17 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

CCP will change things, having subcap domination in a fight will mean your capitals are at risk and you will pull out and leave N3 to burn.


3-1 / 4-1 is that your tactical domination on field and that is why you want to nerf this game again so you can simply out blob everybody? Damn you guys are really scared of us lol.


Again, N3/PL have just as many in a fight.

Having subcap domination puts the capitals of the enemy at a disadvantage. That is what CCP themselves want.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#231 - 2014-01-25 03:40:28 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

CCP will change things, having subcap domination in a fight will mean your capitals are at risk and you will pull out and leave N3 to burn.


3-1 / 4-1 is that your tactical domination on field and that is why you want to nerf this game again so you can simply out blob everybody? Damn you guys are really scared of us lol.


Welcome to talking to Baltec1, the guy who thinks that he with the most numbers should always win

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Mario Putzo
#232 - 2014-01-25 03:40:33 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Just use Nados m8 they get a little bit less Alpha (like not much becuase its a 4 Gyro), and you are going to die if you get lit up anyway so why pay 3 times the price.

1500 Nados....just as good as 1500 Maels.

(I build Nados in Highsec! 10% off Jita price if you buy from me!)


Easier to bomb, cannot go toe to toe against BS fleets, will get wiped out by intercepter fleets all while getting killed in droves by the carriers.

Nados are not good for this kind of fight.


Can't be any worse than using 1K domis to set the stage for 700 Dreads.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#233 - 2014-01-25 03:40:45 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Andski wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Just use Nados m8 they get a little bit less Alpha (like not much becuase its a 4 Gyro), and you are going to die if you get lit up anyway so why pay 3 times the price.

1500 Nados....just as good as 1500 Maels.

(I build Nados in Highsec! 10% off Jita price if you buy from me!)


The problem is that you have no idea what you're talking about

Nados would get killed while sitting on the titan bridging them


Only if you suck. But hey we wouldn't be on page 12 of a thread on EVEO if you didn't.


I think even the most incompetent Goonswarm member would do be able to run a fleet out of hisec to take part in a timer fight without losing the entire fleet to a smartbomb camp in lowsec, so please continue enriching this thread with your strategic genius

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#234 - 2014-01-25 03:41:05 UTC
You mean to tell me all of those fleets lead by utterly dominating FC DBRB which alphaed carriers were all trolls?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#235 - 2014-01-25 03:41:35 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Welcome to talking to Grath Telkin, the guy who thinks that he with the most titans should always win

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#236 - 2014-01-25 03:42:17 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

CCP will change things, having subcap domination in a fight will mean your capitals are at risk and you will pull out and leave N3 to burn.


3-1 / 4-1 is that your tactical domination on field and that is why you want to nerf this game again so you can simply out blob everybody? Damn you guys are really scared of us lol.


Again, N3/PL have just as many in a fight.

Having subcap domination puts the capitals of the enemy at a disadvantage. That is what CCP themselves want.


I dare you to find that in print anywhere from a CCP employee.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#237 - 2014-01-25 03:42:22 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
You mean to tell me all of those fleets lead by utterly dominating FC DBRB which alphaed carriers were all trolls?


Alphaing slowcats is a completely different ballgame than alphaing IT triage carriers

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#238 - 2014-01-25 03:43:15 UTC
Andski wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Welcome to talking to Grath Telkin, the guy who thinks that he with the most titans should always win



I sold my titan last year and think they should be removed from the game since CCP wont give them a fun role to have, sorry to let you down bud.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#239 - 2014-01-25 03:43:18 UTC
By IT I mean IT Alliance, not your allies in NCdot

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Mario Putzo
#240 - 2014-01-25 03:44:08 UTC
Andski wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Andski wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Just use Nados m8 they get a little bit less Alpha (like not much becuase its a 4 Gyro), and you are going to die if you get lit up anyway so why pay 3 times the price.

1500 Nados....just as good as 1500 Maels.

(I build Nados in Highsec! 10% off Jita price if you buy from me!)


The problem is that you have no idea what you're talking about

Nados would get killed while sitting on the titan bridging them


Only if you suck. But hey we wouldn't be on page 12 of a thread on EVEO if you didn't.


I think even the most incompetent Goonswarm member would do be able to run a fleet out of hisec to take part in a timer fight without losing the entire fleet to a smartbomb camp in lowsec, so please continue enriching this thread with your strategic genius



You should go dig up the threads that I wrote about it. There wasn't a timer fight. We were going up there to die. We even brought Test Dummies and Homeless to lay at the foot of the station in B-D.

But why talk real talk after all with Baltec1s revisionst history in 6VDT it isn't a stretch that you can revise some highsec scrubs EVEO Forum trip to 0.0.