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So Drones do CAUSE LAG... Interesting..

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#201 - 2014-01-25 03:06:12 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:


You have been given ideas, doctrines, fleet composition and fleet tactics in about every forum you cry yet you still act like half of your brain literally stopped working.

Yes mister. You can't play this game. You are very bad at it and no matter what next bullshit answer you come up with we all know that the only thing you can do in this game is to force CCP to give you a hand. **** even battlefield cheaters have mor skill than you guys. You've hit the rock bottom of being bad.


If it was as simple as just dumping maelstroms we would have done it by now. They dont work, we dont have the numbers to pull it off, nobody does.

Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#202 - 2014-01-25 03:07:09 UTC
Andski wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
You actually DO have more Titans than us, which is to be expected when you're running around with 80k dudes


now we have 80k members

oh man tell me more about these things we literally do not have


I count the russians as CFC now, hth, they're only alive by virtue of living on your front porch, so I'm lumping them in with you. Even Baltec seems to think half of EVE is yours, and the other half ours and those guys sure as hell aren't with us.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#203 - 2014-01-25 03:07:38 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:


You mean all these posts from Baltec and James saying there invincible aren't really saying they're invincible?





If the node didnt die then we would have the perfect counter.


You have zero proof to back this statement up with, seems to be the story of Baltec1's posting life. When in doubt just make it all up


The 700 dreads are the proof. That is the kind of firepower needed to kill your capital blob.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#204 - 2014-01-25 03:08:01 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:


You have been given ideas, doctrines, fleet composition and fleet tactics in about every forum you cry yet you still act like half of your brain literally stopped working.

Yes mister. You can't play this game. You are very bad at it and no matter what next bullshit answer you come up with we all know that the only thing you can do in this game is to force CCP to give you a hand. **** even battlefield cheaters have mor skill than you guys. You've hit the rock bottom of being bad.


If it was as simple as just dumping maelstroms we would have done it by now. They dont work, we dont have the numbers to pull it off, nobody does.



More lies, you do have the numbers (10 times the numbers on average) and you haven't tried them to see if they work.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#205 - 2014-01-25 03:08:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:


You mean all these posts from Baltec and James saying there invincible aren't really saying they're invincible?





If the node didnt die then we would have the perfect counter.


You have zero proof to back this statement up with, seems to be the story of Baltec1's posting life. When in doubt just make it all up


The 700 dreads are the proof. That is the kind of firepower needed to kill your capital blob.


How many maelstroms does it take to kill a carrier Baltec?

(I'm sure this is another question you'll ignore since it doesn't support your argument)

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

Mario Putzo
#206 - 2014-01-25 03:09:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
Grath Telkin wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

The 700 dreads are the proof. That is the kind of firepower needed to kill your capital blob.


How many maelstroms does it take to kill a carrier Baltec?

(I'm sure this is another question you'll ignore since it doesn't support your argument)


8 Less then Nados!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#207 - 2014-01-25 03:11:21 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
I count the russians as CFC now, hth, they're only alive by virtue of living on your front porch, so I'm lumping them in with you. Even Baltec seems to think half of EVE is yours, and the other half ours and those guys sure as hell aren't with us.


does that mean PL is part of N3

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#208 - 2014-01-25 03:11:30 UTC  |  Edited by: PinkPanter
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:


You have been given ideas, doctrines, fleet composition and fleet tactics in about every forum you cry yet you still act like half of your brain literally stopped working.

Yes mister. You can't play this game. You are very bad at it and no matter what next bullshit answer you come up with we all know that the only thing you can do in this game is to force CCP to give you a hand. **** even battlefield cheaters have mor skill than you guys. You've hit the rock bottom of being bad.


If it was as simple as just dumping maelstroms we would have done it by now. They dont work, we dont have the numbers to pull it off, nobody does.



I'll try one more time some I'm not accused of being mean without a reason.

900 on grid.
1K dummies land. Kill the jammer. Hide drones, warp out, dreads jump in at a Ping, out of range whatever. We're all bubbled by ourselves. We won't move a inch (you do know that our FC literally told us NOT to kill your cyno that landed on bubble right? **** we knew what's gonna happen even before you jumped in). Domies leave grid, dreads warp in, everybody loaded, hardeners working domies land back. **** and now we have some fight going with your 3-1. But nope. There's no counters. We will ***** to CCP till they hold our hands again and help us because we suck so bad that the developers need to bend their game for us.

WOW.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#209 - 2014-01-25 03:12:35 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:


More lies, you do have the numbers (10 times the numbers on average) and you haven't tried them to see if they work.


We would need 1500 maelstroms alone to stand a chance and even that probably wouldn't be enough. Unlike you, I take into account how many ships we would need for the whole battle.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#210 - 2014-01-25 03:13:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Grath Telkin
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:


More lies, you do have the numbers (10 times the numbers on average) and you haven't tried them to see if they work.


We would need 1500 maelstroms alone to stand a chance and even that probably wouldn't be enough. Unlike you, I take into account how many ships we would need for the whole battle.


AHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAAHA.

Man, thanks for that laugh, nice to know you literally know nothing about the game not handed directly to you.

Andski wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
I count the russians as CFC now, hth, they're only alive by virtue of living on your front porch, so I'm lumping them in with you. Even Baltec seems to think half of EVE is yours, and the other half ours and those guys sure as hell aren't with us.


does that mean PL is part of N3


For the purpose of this war, yep, 100%


Also your boy here says it takes 1500 maelstroms to kill a carrier, lol.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

Mario Putzo
#211 - 2014-01-25 03:13:42 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:


You have been given ideas, doctrines, fleet composition and fleet tactics in about every forum you cry yet you still act like half of your brain literally stopped working.

Yes mister. You can't play this game. You are very bad at it and no matter what next bullshit answer you come up with we all know that the only thing you can do in this game is to force CCP to give you a hand. **** even battlefield cheaters have mor skill than you guys. You've hit the rock bottom of being bad.


If it was as simple as just dumping maelstroms we would have done it by now. They dont work, we dont have the numbers to pull it off, nobody does.



I'll try one more time some I'm not accused of being mean without a reason.

900 on grid.
1K dummies land. Kill the jammer. Hide drones, warp out, dreads jump in at a Ping, out of range whatever. We're all bubbled by ourselves. We won't move a inch (you do know that our FC literally told us NOT to kill your cyno that landed on bubble right? **** we knew what's gonna happen even before you jumped in). Domies leave grid, dreads warp in, everybody loaded, hardeners working domies land back. **** and now we have some fight going with your 3-1. But nope. There's no counts. We will ***** to CCP till they hold our hands again and help us because we suck so bad that the developers need to bend their game for us.

WOW.


Don't forget having to be gifted all your space. I mean when has GOON took their own turf...bunch of highsec scrubs on the wrong side of lowsec.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#212 - 2014-01-25 03:15:00 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Don't forget having to be gifted all your space. I mean when has GOON took their own turf...bunch of highsec scrubs on the wrong side of lowsec.


i think you're confusing us with Nulli or TEST

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#213 - 2014-01-25 03:15:27 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:


More lies, you do have the numbers (10 times the numbers on average) and you haven't tried them to see if they work.


We would need 1500 maelstroms alone to stand a chance and even that probably wouldn't be enough. Unlike you, I take into account how many ships we would need for the whole battle.


AHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAAHA.

Man, thanks for that laugh, nice to know you literally know nothing about the game not handed directly to you.


So you think that we will be taking no losses while we wait for some of the slowest cycling guns in eve to cycle?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#214 - 2014-01-25 03:17:03 UTC
i mean for some reason my supercarrier pilots both have endless numbers of ihub/TCU kills but we were somehow gifted "all of our space"

interesting

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Mario Putzo
#215 - 2014-01-25 03:17:58 UTC
Andski wrote:
i mean for some reason my supercarrier pilots both have endless numbers of ihub/TCU kills but we were somehow gifted "all of our space"

interesting


How many Carrier kills they got? Probably 0 eh LOOOOL.
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#216 - 2014-01-25 03:18:41 UTC  |  Edited by: PinkPanter
Andski wrote:
i mean for some reason my supercarrier pilots both have endless numbers of ihub/TCU kills but we were somehow gifted "all of our space"

interesting


You guys are like Sansha's Nation or Mininies on Vitoc from eve lore. You were brainwashed to the point you actually became stupid.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#217 - 2014-01-25 03:20:23 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Andski wrote:
i mean for some reason my supercarrier pilots both have endless numbers of ihub/TCU kills but we were somehow gifted "all of our space"

interesting


How many Carrier kills they got? Probably 0 eh LOOOOL.


54 carriers, 113 dreads, 2 titans

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#218 - 2014-01-25 03:22:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Grath Telkin
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:


More lies, you do have the numbers (10 times the numbers on average) and you haven't tried them to see if they work.


We would need 1500 maelstroms alone to stand a chance and even that probably wouldn't be enough. Unlike you, I take into account how many ships we would need for the whole battle.


AHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAAHA.

Man, thanks for that laugh, nice to know you literally know nothing about the game not handed directly to you.


So you think that we will be taking no losses while we wait for some of the slowest cycling guns in eve to cycle?


Let me help you, 1500 maels will kill a very minimum of 10 carriers every 19 seconds.

Assuming the average or 400 carriers, you will lose, going off current tactics of a single trigger per fleet 2 maels every 4 seconds, or about 10 every 20 seconds

So the trade rate is about the same.


Guess who runs out of killing power first in that situation by a mile?

Even if you were to back that down to 1000 Maels, a number that the CFC has proven time and again that they could come up with you would kill about 6 every 20 seconds, understand that these are lowball estimates on both accounts of Battleships and very precise estimates on the carriers (since I run those I know how fast they kill).

So you'll kill about 20 carriers a minute, and lose about 30 BS. In 1 minute you still have 850 battleships and theres only 300 carriers left. 1 more minute and you have 700 BS and 200 carriers left. 1 more minute and you have 550 BS left and theres 100 carriers left.

Fight ending should still see you above 400 bs left.


And I lowballed your killing power in the BS alot.

Stop trying Baltec you simply do not understand the game you've been playing.

EDIT: All this of course assumes you try different things, which i know is frowned upon in your establishment

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#219 - 2014-01-25 03:24:21 UTC  |  Edited by: PinkPanter
Actually maybe this thread is not what it seems when I'm thinking about it.
IF CCP doesn't nerf what's already balanced all they have to do is re read the whole thing and there you go. FC's training 101 from the best pilots the game. For free and without a loss.

Sneaky goons...
Mario Putzo
#220 - 2014-01-25 03:28:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
Just use Nados m8 they get a little bit less Alpha (like not much becuase its a 4 Gyro), and you are going to die if you get lit up anyway so why pay 3 times the price.

1500 Nados....just as good as 1500 Maels.

(I build Nados in Highsec! 10% off Jita price if you buy from me!)