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Un-Suck Field Command Ships.
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Miriiah
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-11-24 18:40:36 UTC
Elindreal wrote:
I somewhat understand your frustration with field command ships, but what about fleet command ships?

I mean fleet command ships are only useful as offgrid with a full high rack of ganglinks, they 99% of the time never utilize their weapon systems.

Not to mention they're outclassed by T3s (with the exception that they can fit 1 more link than a t3 - Claymore can fit 8 on a l33t fit)

/shrug


Gallente links are generally meh, and Eos + active tank bonus(any gallente ship and active tank bonus actually, is batshit. it's fine on Marauders), so Eos kinda sucks in general. It's easier to get a decent amount of links on the useful Fleet Command ships and still have some sort of tank

Gangboosting should only work on grid, which would make the Fleet Command ships actually have an advantage over t3's even though they have slightly worse bonuses
Miriiah
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2011-11-25 08:09:00 UTC
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Miriiah
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-11-26 10:21:15 UTC
Elindreal wrote:
I somewhat understand your frustration with field command ships, but what about fleet command ships?

I mean fleet command ships are only useful as offgrid with a full high rack of ganglinks, they 99% of the time never utilize their weapon systems.

Not to mention they're outclassed by T3s (with the exception that they can fit 1 more link than a t3 - Claymore can fit 8 on a l33t fit)

/shrug


All Fleet Command ships need 1 more HS each so they can atleast fit their 3 links and a full rack of their weapons.

by All I mean all - claymore, because WINmatar ships already 1 more slot than others, and claymore got 5 gunslots + 8 highs.

Fix mah field commands!
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#24 - 2011-11-26 15:48:33 UTC
Never give up! Never surrender!
Aglais
Ice-Storm
#25 - 2011-11-26 21:31:49 UTC
There's something wrong with the field command ships?
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#26 - 2011-11-26 21:48:35 UTC
Aglais wrote:
There's something wrong with the field command ships?

Given this thread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=418502#post418502

i'd say you're a troll.

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2011-11-27 02:09:35 UTC
Maybe the fix then should be the removal of offgrid boosting? In pvp, get one person sending out probes, and either you are on the offensive so they have poses, or they need to keep in warp and cannot boost anyways. Majority of the time, a fleet command outdoes the T3 for functional boosting. Field commands, the same way. In combat situations, a link boosting field command does excellent damage, much more than a T1 does.

My problem is that the fields do need to be a bit beefier than their T1 counterparts in base defences. At the moment, a link fit field for me does more damage than any hac, but just not quite beefy enough with the link to make it viable into battles for the cost. Give them a 10-15% base hp increase I think would make them much more attractive?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#28 - 2011-11-27 10:22:48 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Maybe the fix then should be the removal of offgrid boosting? In pvp, get one person sending out probes, and either you are on the offensive so they have poses, or they need to keep in warp and cannot boost anyways. Majority of the time, a fleet command outdoes the T3 for functional boosting. Field commands, the same way. In combat situations, a link boosting field command does excellent damage, much more than a T1 does.


On-grid boosting will change absolutely nothing in this regard. Why gimp a mighty ship with a GAM when you can easily fit one into a fugly Drake for the same outcome?

This could work only (!) if CCP gives field command ships an increased role bonus, allowing to install GAMs at low cost PG-wise.

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.
Rhapsodae
Bedlam Escapees
Apocalypse Now.
#29 - 2011-11-27 11:45:49 UTC
[quote=Elindreal...they're outclassed by T3s (with the exception that they can fit 1 more link than a t3 - Claymore can fit 8 on a l33t fit).... [/quote]

Something CCP should take a look at. nuff said.
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