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Lido Seahawk
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-01-24 01:14:39 UTC
The Stoner Bowl!

Go Seahawks!

May I have your stuff?
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#2 - 2014-01-24 01:25:40 UTC
OK, I'll admit I was planning on trolling the hell out of you... But that link has me laughing, so I'll let you go with a: P
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#3 - 2014-01-24 22:05:29 UTC
One small step for America, one giant leap for mankind! Smile
Proper Gangster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-02-03 21:01:01 UTC
Haha, some of those are classic.

Pretty funny considering Cannabis is an ergolytic (work reducing) drug.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#5 - 2014-02-03 21:07:33 UTC
Proper Gangster wrote:
Haha, some of those are classic.

Pretty funny considering Cannabis is an ergolytic (work reducing) drug.


Not necessarily. Some sativas are positively speedy.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Proper Gangster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-02-03 21:19:55 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Proper Gangster wrote:
Haha, some of those are classic.

Pretty funny considering Cannabis is an ergolytic (work reducing) drug.


Not necessarily. Some sativas are positively speedy.


http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1743-7075-10-71.pdf

Well there's a peer reviewed article which contradicts your statement. I'd be very interested to see any evidence for cannabis increasing a human's mechanical work outputs.

I am pro-cannabis, just FYI. But it is science that Cannabis is an ergolytic drug.

Just one more - "does not have ergogenic potential in sports" - http://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00007256-200333060-00001
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#7 - 2014-02-03 21:30:14 UTC
Proper Gangster wrote:


Well there's a peer reviewed article which contradicts your statement. I'd be very interested to see any evidence for cannabis increasing a human's mechanical work outputs.



Who said anything about increasing ? I certainly didn't.

But I have had sativas that have absolutely no drowsy or slow down affect at all. At best they maintain baseline, with no decrease or increase.

This I do know from 32 years of extensive and approved medical usage. I do know exactly what I'm talking about.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Proper Gangster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-02-03 22:01:12 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Proper Gangster wrote:


Well there's a peer reviewed article which contradicts your statement. I'd be very interested to see any evidence for cannabis increasing a human's mechanical work outputs.



Who said anything about increasing ? I certainly didn't.

But I have had sativas that have absolutely no drowsy or slow down affect at all. At best they maintain baseline, with no decrease or increase.

This I do know from 32 years of extensive and approved medical usage. I do know exactly what I'm talking about.

"Who said anything about increasing ? I certainly didn't." - my apologies, I think I read you wrong. If your position is that cannabis will be either ergolytic, or have no change in work output - then the TLDR version is "I agree".

Anecdotally, yes - I'll agree there are some strains which are uplifting, which can make you feel like getting up and doing something. The main sensation I experience is not extra energy for doing physical work, but a sensation that my brain is thinking in many different directions quickly.

To be fair there is some discussion of potential ergogenic effects of cannabis, and if these ergogenic effects are real - they haven't been demonstrated yet (at least not that I've seen). Unfortunately, in terms of scientific observations Cannabis is reported overwhelmingly as an ergolytic drug, I linked two peer-reviewed publications - this is not my opinion, this is what the body of scientific evidence reports.

I just want to comment - really my original comment was meant to highlight the irony of the two top teams coming from states where the ergolytic drug is widely available!

Peace, yo?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#9 - 2014-02-04 12:47:20 UTC
All I know is I prefer Sativas during the day for their lack of "drowsy" and slow-down. That's all.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Malaclypse Muscaria
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-02-04 13:50:56 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
All I know is I prefer Sativas during the day for their lack of "drowsy" and slow-down. That's all.


I prefer to smoke Sativas as well during the day, but they are a pain to grow indoors, particularly the pure strains: they keep branching and growing, and growing, requiring to perform crafty tricks with strings to keep the branches in place, and not get too close to the lights. And they take forever to mature as well

Indicas on the other hand are so much better behaved, a pleasure to grow indoors: they branch very little once they start flowering, remain short, condensed and stout, and take the shortest amount of time to mature. Though indeed, they are not such a smart choice if you want to stay productive during the day...
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#11 - 2014-02-04 14:04:25 UTC
Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
All I know is I prefer Sativas during the day for their lack of "drowsy" and slow-down. That's all.


I prefer to smoke Sativas as well during the day, but they are a pain to grow indoors, particularly the pure strains: they keep branching and growing, and growing, requiring to perform crafty tricks with strings to keep the branches in place, and not get too close to the lights. And they take forever to mature as well

Indicas on the other hand are so much better behaved, a pleasure to grow indoors: they branch very little once they start flowering, remain short, condensed and stout, and take the shortest amount of time to mature. Though indeed, they are not such a smart choice if you want to stay productive during the day...


Yuppers. The outlets in California were always short of the pure sativas. The yield per square yard is so much less than Indicas. At least the prices matched though.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#12 - 2014-02-04 14:06:55 UTC
Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
All I know is I prefer Sativas during the day for their lack of "drowsy" and slow-down. That's all.


I prefer to smoke Sativas as well during the day, but they are a pain to grow indoors, particularly the pure strains: they keep branching and growing, and growing, requiring to perform crafty tricks with strings to keep the branches in place, and not get too close to the lights. And they take forever to mature as well

Indicas on the other hand are so much better behaved, a pleasure to grow indoors: they branch very little once they start flowering, remain short, condensed and stout, and take the shortest amount of time to mature. Though indeed, they are not such a smart choice if you want to stay productive during the day...




Not a bit ironic that the easiest to grow indoors is the one that will slow you down and the one that is better to grow outdoors, which requires 'more', is the one less likely to slow you down.
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#13 - 2014-02-05 02:22:12 UTC
Came in mad, left humbled.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-02-05 04:58:00 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
All I know is I prefer Sativas during the day for their lack of "drowsy" and slow-down. That's all.


I prefer to smoke Sativas as well during the day, but they are a pain to grow indoors, particularly the pure strains: they keep branching and growing, and growing, requiring to perform crafty tricks with strings to keep the branches in place, and not get too close to the lights. And they take forever to mature as well

Indicas on the other hand are so much better behaved, a pleasure to grow indoors: they branch very little once they start flowering, remain short, condensed and stout, and take the shortest amount of time to mature. Though indeed, they are not such a smart choice if you want to stay productive during the day...


Yuppers. The outlets in California were always short of the pure sativas. The yield per square yard is so much less than Indicas. At least the prices matched though.


I smoked Indica after I got out of the Corps... only thing that helped with my massive insomnia.

Also helpful when there is just too much food in the house

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2014-02-05 14:03:17 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

I smoked Indica after I got out of the Corps... only thing that helped with my massive insomnia.

Also helpful when there is just too much food in the house


Yup. And none of that chemical hangover yuck the next morning from sleeping pills.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#16 - 2014-02-06 17:31:04 UTC
Melatonin is good for insomnia, for me at least. Very mild, no prescription needed. It doesn't knock you out like sleep medication does. It just makes you slightly drowsy for a few minutes, to help push you over the edge.