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NAGA + Best Use (Rails) - Most Use(Missiles) = ? No Use ?

Clearly the answer is to give the Naga a bigger damage bonus then, maybe to 10%/level. Maybe it'll be used if it can do 840 DPS at 100 km?

I would like to point out that while the Naga is still being debated by the players, and rightfully so given the last look we had, the advertisements for Crucible CCP has put out still lists the Naga as Hybrid AND Torp.

CCP, Please read this one carefully.

Are you messing with those of us still paying attention, or are you about to make everyone looking at the advertising very very upset?

I hope, I really really do hope, the naga will still have torps and you don't have false advertising up.

Better do something about the very first line too then.

"Last but certainly not least in the line of ships en route to TQ in the upcoming Winter Expansion, is the Caldari Naga ... as the Caldari Naga can deliver a deadly bite up close, or spit death from afar."

I suggest "Last, and for the damn good reason that it's hopeless at everything, in the line of ships en route to TQ, in the upcoming Winter Expansion, is the Caldari Naga ... as the Caldari Naga can deliver a slow, easily avoided nibble up close, or spit saliva from afar".

My question is with all the talk about the naga, does the Talos actually do anything other than say "Look at me I haz drones?"

wow, I cant believe that everyone is complaining about the naga . . . did you people fly it with torpedoes? its WAY better now.

The only good torpedo, is one that transforms into a cruise missile right? If they changed the scope of the Guided Missile Precision skill, it might help. At least with this post, I can stop getting notifications... lol

I like this. I think what needs to be discussed are the roles these ships are intended to fill. It seems like these ships are not unlike stealth bombers in that they aren't supposed to be all that great against smaller ships (the Tier 1 and 2's do that pretty well already). Rather, these ships are a cheap way for people to band together and take down larger (and much more expensive) prey. Which to me explains the emphasis on torpedoes rather than cruise missiles. And it also might explain why they might not be all that great at killing one another. Just my opinion and I'm sure I'm over simplifying it, but does that make some sense?

I rather have no role than a completyl useless ship with a lame role, what role is pos bashing anyway??? Dreads are for that. Also if there is enemy pos there should be enemies nearby --> possible battle , if a ship cant do its part in battle it doesnt matter how good it is at pos bashing as it would just lame itself there while enemies would take them apart from range.

Btw why do you think a low tank ultra close range ship is good vs pos? If that pos has some guns(as it should) your precious tier3 torp ships would die in every 20 sec or so. I rly cant see how they would perform this anti pos thing, pls tell us.

You should be able to have a missioning ship from all four factions, and valid PvP ships in all factions, with flexibility in what the latter are (I'm aware Caldari have Drake and ECMs, but that's it. Caldari use missiles AND hybrids; there is, at this moment, only one truly successful Caldari hybrid ship, that being the Naga, with blasters). What you essentially said is that you support further seperation of the factions into different sections of EVE's gameplay, which I feel is a ******* stupid idea. Let's say you have an Amarr character who wants to have an efficient missioning ship. Using your reasoning, they have absolutely no choice but to crosstrain Caldari. This would be a massive waste of their time, especially if they didn't know beforehand that Caldari was the "PvE faction". They'd need to spend several months working on skills not at all relevant to their original... Anything, and this fact might even drive off potential players.

Likewise, a Caldari pilot who wants to partake in PvP can either have the most boring ship around, generally relegated to the scrubs who have yet to crosstrain (Drake) or be forced to crosstrain Minmatar to be in any way decent in any other way. This is ridiculous. EVE is a 'sandbox with landmines'. This forcing people to crosstrain if they want to experience something else turns it almost more into most any other MMO, though instead of classes, you have factions, and these classes, instead of being built around different methods of dealing damage, are arguably built around different sections of gameplay. It doesn't make sense, and it shouldn't happen. I feel that this segregation is actually a slap in the face to the concept of the wide open sandbox.

I'm positive it's possible to balance in both dimensions of ship type and faction, and if this can be done I'm also positive that the game will be much better as with the re-introduction of factions currently not used in PvP, new tactics will arise.