Ships & Modules

The Paladin is very nice against EM weak rats but you can do a whole lot better in a different ship fighting Guristas or Angels.

Your skills are decent and it looks like both your missile and gunnery support skills are at 4 so either way you're going to spend some time getting those up.

Your ship hanger can hold more than one ship so don't try to use one ship for everything. You could go with the Dominix as some suggested. I've had good success with a MJD fitted one since you can jump to range and insta pop most frigates. Since you already have T2 sentries and Gallente BS 4 this wouldn't require training and if they nerf sentry drones too badly you're not really out much. From what I've read Garde's are going to be useless at range but Bouncer's should work.

I've flown the Golem and it's nice but it doesn't destroy Sansha nearly as fast as the Paladin. It's maybe a little better than the CNR but has EWAR immunity like all marauders so it's nice against Guristas . You can also use your SNI for Guristas since with all those mid slots you can fit 2 ECCM. You'll still get an occasional jam but not all the time.

Missile ships aren't well received by many incursion groups. I'm sure armor fleets are out there but I don't know if they're using Paladins since Bastion wouldn't work in incursions... At least not if you wanted the logi to rep you LOL. I do know that shield Nightmares are well received so this would be an easy transition.

Tach pally does more dps beyond 30km compared to a Pulse pally and that's generally where Guristas will be; beyond 30km. And when your pulses have to use Scorch a tach fit does more dps everywhere while having massively better damage types for Guristas.


Less baseless hearsay, more facts.

TDF does take paladins and kronos but there is worry over bastion mode as people that dc often with bastion mode on usually loses their ship, but we do have a bastion group, and paladins and well taken with out bastion

Tach pally works ok against Guristas, while the damage type sucks on a Tach pally (which is what you want to avoid scorch EM damage type) the base dps and damage projection is fantastic. It won't out perform a 425 Kronos because that's too close in damage at range while using the right damage type but it's certainly no slouch. And beyond some 30km it's going to outperform an AC Vargur as well, simply due to not having to rely on falloff even if it does use the wrong damage type.

So that, effectively, leaves missile and drone ships.

Missile ships have flight time meaning you're probably going to waste time waiting for the target to die before firing at a new target (this is especially sucky when using painters). Also, while Turrets may get tracking issues missiles have damage application issues against moving target so as long as the targets move straight at you, which they tend to do in the beginning, turrets are very much better than missiles and since the Tach Pally does such a ridiculous amount of dps stuff generally dies before it gets a chance to orbit.

Drone ships can be really good, sentry domi can do amazing applied dps at massive ranges but, being a sentry ship, they don't move while applying dps which can be an issue when doing multiple pockets


So turret ships perform better (not easier) than missile ships and will probably complete missions faster than sentry ships because of being able to move while firing. And of all the turret marauders the Pally is second in effectiveness (behind the Kronos) against Guristas. End result: damage type won't be ideal but it'll work fine.

TDF does take paladins and kronos but there is worry over bastion mode as people that dc often with bastion mode on usually loses their ship, but we do have a bastion group, and paladins and well taken with out bastion

How bad is the Paladin when going up against Angels or Guristas, really? I am looking to train a marauder and I am primarily in Amarr space, so all well and good there, but began to wonder about those occasional missions against Guristas or Angels.

Right now I fly a SNI with roughly 800 dps. Actually, the CM launchers are the only large weapon I have to tech2, so the other three Marauders aside from the Golem will need their weapons trained up, as well as the support skills. The main thing that has been holding me back from the Golem is that missile users do not seem as well received in the incursion communities I have chatted with.

Anyone have any advice or suggestions? It would be very much appreciated. Here is my current character sheet if a reference will be handy: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Novah_Soul

Thanks in advance, and apologies for the slight ramblings, I am a tad scatter-brained currently.

Wow it can tank incursions with local reps? I knew the Marauders were tough but that's pretty good.