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James 315...professional troll?

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Dasha Naari
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-01-23 20:38:46 UTC
I tend to follow Minerbumping.com...if only cause it amuses me to see the tripe he spews out.

That said he never went out and admitted that all he wanted to do was harass high sec players.

This brings me to part three of his 'How the new order will achieve victory' blog where he's all but admitted that all he wants to do is harass high sec players until CCP alters high sec to his liking or they all quit. (see the quote: 'Even the most stubborn carebear will learn. It's one thing to be ganked once, or twice, or even three times. It's quite another to be ganked over and over again, week after week, month after month, year after year. In time, they either follow the Code, leave highsec, or quit EVE forever. I prefer the first option, but I'll take any of the three.')

How long till CCP realise that James' 10 million isk 'fee' was just exploiting the rules so he can harass in freedom?

I would like to hear from an actual dev on this.



Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#2 - 2014-01-23 20:42:13 UTC
1. There are no rules in the sandbox

2. No exploits were commited

3. Umadbro?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#3 - 2014-01-23 20:42:27 UTC
Quote:
How long till CCP realise that James' 10 million isk 'fee' was just exploiting the rules so he can harass in freedom?

I would like to hear from an actual dev on this.



If you read the website at all, you should know that they explicitly told him that he ostensibly had to have a monetary goal in order to pursue his activities.

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Dasha Naari
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-01-23 20:46:29 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
How long till CCP realise that James' 10 million isk 'fee' was just exploiting the rules so he can harass in freedom?

I would like to hear from an actual dev on this.



If you read the website at all, you should know that they explicitly told him that he ostensibly had to have a monetary goal in order to pursue his activities.


I've never seen their agents demand isk before bumping or shooting so where is the monetary goal they are getting?
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-01-23 20:47:34 UTC
Hey, he's at least a little more original in his roleplay than all the "hurr drr Amarr slavery god" people.
Dasha Naari
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-01-23 20:51:36 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Hey, he's at least a little more original in his roleplay than all the "hurr drr Amarr slavery god" people.


True...its the 'lets treat anyoner who doesn;t play like we do or do what we say like scum' that gets my goat. I don't like hate speech RP.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#7 - 2014-01-23 20:52:14 UTC
Dasha Naari wrote:
I would like to hear from an actual dev on this.


Done and done.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2014-01-23 20:56:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Dasha Naari wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
How long till CCP realise that James' 10 million isk 'fee' was just exploiting the rules so he can harass in freedom?

I would like to hear from an actual dev on this.



If you read the website at all, you should know that they explicitly told him that he ostensibly had to have a monetary goal in order to pursue his activities.


I've never seen their agents demand isk before bumping or shooting so where is the monetary goal they are getting?

You might have more credibility if you were posting on a character that was more than a day old.

10M isk or risk bump/gank is an oft repeated phrase in PM where most of the NO conversations take place, primarily because local is pretty much ignored by everybody; as evidenced by the lack of response from miners when multiple characters with negative sec status, and the red tags that go with it, enter system in a gaggle of gankships.

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Dasha Naari
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-01-23 20:57:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dasha Naari
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Dasha Naari wrote:
I would like to hear from an actual dev on this.


Done and done.


And that is based on old information. I meant a up to date comment...not one thats almost a year old.

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:


I've never seen their agents demand isk before bumping or shooting so where is the monetary goal they are getting?

You might have more credibility if you were posting on a character that was more than a day old.

10M isk or risk bump/gank is an oft repeated phrase in PM, and occasionally local.
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Good grief...you think I;d be stupid enough to set myself up for more harassment by posting with my main?
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#10 - 2014-01-23 21:05:36 UTC
Dasha Naari wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Dasha Naari wrote:
I would like to hear from an actual dev on this.


Done and done.


And that is based on old information. I meant a up to date comment...not one thats almost a year old.


If there were something more up-to-date, I'd be happy to link it for you. Since there isn't - this is the current response. Coming on the forums and asking for a dev to respond to you is kind of self-entitled don't you think? It's not like these guys have things to do more important than addressing the concerns of a single person on the forum about something they and GMs have already weighed in on right?

If, however, you'd prefer a more special and personal relationship - submit a petition.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2014-01-23 21:07:21 UTC
Dasha Naari wrote:

Good grief...you think I;d be stupid enough to set myself up for more harassment by posting with my main?

I always post with mine, because it's a game and the people I aggravate with my posts can only destroy my internet spaceships. Man up and stop hiding behind an NPC corp alt.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Paranoid Loyd
#12 - 2014-01-23 21:08:19 UTC
Dasha Naari wrote:
Good grief...


OP's main is Charlie BrownLol

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Dasha Naari
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-01-23 21:16:12 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dasha Naari wrote:

Good grief...you think I;d be stupid enough to set myself up for more harassment by posting with my main?

I always post with mine, because it's a game and the people I aggravate with my posts can only destroy my internet spaceships. Man up and stop hiding behind an NPC corp alt.


The last time I posted with my main about stuff like this I was hounded in game and out of game. to the point the police got involved. I would prefer that not to happen again
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#14 - 2014-01-23 21:17:31 UTC
Dasha Naari wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dasha Naari wrote:

Good grief...you think I;d be stupid enough to set myself up for more harassment by posting with my main?

I always post with mine, because it's a game and the people I aggravate with my posts can only destroy my internet spaceships. Man up and stop hiding behind an NPC corp alt.


The last time I posted with my main about stuff like this I was hounded in game and out of game. to the point the police got involved. I would prefer that not to happen again


CONCORD came to your house? That's ****** up!

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#15 - 2014-01-23 21:19:22 UTC
It was an amazing 3 part series. In a few more years even the op of this thread will sing the praises of the Saviour.

Do you have any questions for the New Order?

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2014-01-23 21:20:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Dasha Naari wrote:
The last time I posted with my main about stuff like this I was hounded in game and out of game. to the point the police got involved. I would prefer that not to happen again
If people are hounding you outside of the game, to the extent that you have to get the plod involved then that's unacceptable, CCP frown upon those sorts of shenanigans and come down like a tonne of bricks on people that do it. I've upset many people with my posts but have never been hounded out of game for them, I've shared beers IRL with people that have threatened me ingame because what happens in Eve should remain in Eve.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-01-23 21:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
Nice boobees, Dasha! :)

As to James ... well. How does it matter? Why does it offend your ego? What's your issue? Don't you have any actual worries? What's the point of creating such a thread? Maybe it's your own fault that you get haunted, because you can't just keep your mouth shut and mind your own business? Why is it that everybody who feels offended believes he has to make a thread about crap that's not his business?

If you don't like what's going on, you have choices to change this. That's something which usually gets done in the mind, but instead people believe that making threads containing pointless words somehow changes reality to something that's more of their liking.


Edit: Forgot the options. The ones that actually make a difference:

.) Work on yourself, accept reality and realize that it doesn't actually affect you.
.) Quit the game.

In case something actually affects you (like getting bumped):

.) Move somewhere else.
.) Find friends and ways to remove the issue.
.) Quit the game.



Over and over and over again different people do the exact same things and nobody learns from the other.



Collective insanity.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#18 - 2014-01-23 21:23:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Dasha Naari wrote:

How long till CCP realise that James' 10 million isk 'fee' was just exploiting the rules so he can harass in freedom?
Prediction? This will NEVER change. CCP loves 'emergent play' and James is an oft-ccited example of this.
The windmills are thataway, Don Quixote ==>

Quote:
I would like to hear from an actual dev on this.
What, only a Dev? Not a GM? How about Hilmar Veigar Pétursson himself, whilst you're making demands?
Anslo
Scope Works
#19 - 2014-01-23 21:25:51 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dasha Naari wrote:
The last time I posted with my main about stuff like this I was hounded in game and out of game. to the point the police got involved. I would prefer that not to happen again
If people are hounding you outside of the game, to the extent that you have to get the plod involved then that's unacceptable, CCP frown upon those sorts of shenanigans and come down like a tonne of bricks on people that do it. I've upset many people with my posts but have never been hounded out of game for them, I've shared beers IRL with people that have threatened me ingame because what happens in Eve should remain in Eve.

While he's an absolute ass and I disagree with just about everything he believes in, Grave is at LEAST civil. More so than before anyway.

I'll still shred your ship if I ever see you though.

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#20 - 2014-01-23 21:28:24 UTC
Dasha Naari wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Dasha Naari wrote:
I would like to hear from an actual dev on this.


Done and done.


And that is based on old information. I meant a up to date comment...not one thats almost a year old.

Cite a factual change in circumstance that renders the previoously-made decision invalid.
Oh, wait, you can't.

Sancho Panza is waiting for you, Don Quixote. Those windmills aren't going to come looking for you on their own.
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