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Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#41 - 2014-01-21 19:43:56 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
wh 'rules' are getting out of hand - don't make more.


You mean like your rule that we have to pod? You play your way, let others play their way.

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Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2014-01-21 20:07:05 UTC
Key Dett wrote:
These are the groups that can provide these type of skirmishes for my guys. If I ruthlessly killed their pods and didn't honor agreements we would be less likely to get fights going forward.
I think december made it abundantly clear what happens when agreements arent honoured and grudges are made...
Blademaster Hattori
Ruby Code
#43 - 2014-01-21 21:47:55 UTC
They were not too happy with our Ishtar Army last night, but it was nice to see people for fights

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Winthorp
#44 - 2014-01-21 23:04:54 UTC
Blademaster Hattori wrote:
They were not too happy with our Ishtar Army last night, but it was nice to see people for fights


My damn Devoter jumping back and forth getting session changes to catch all the T3's scurrying away missed getting on all the KM's.

Was disappoint you wouldn't sing on comms to save the last few T3's.

We don't understand why you ran though you had better numbers in better ships? But i did make a point to have the guys pod you as with our numbers we couldn't afford you reshipping.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#45 - 2014-01-22 11:42:15 UTC
Proclus Diadochu wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
wh 'rules' are getting out of hand - don't make more.


You mean like your rule that we have to pod? You play your way, let others play their way.



I like snarky - it suits you. Your 'rough' interpretation of what I said is..... bad. I'm reaching out to my contacts in CNN - they need more guys like you.
JamesWyh
Probe Patrol
#46 - 2014-01-22 14:55:37 UTC
Awesome stuff happening with our us/az. Very proud alliance leader here :)

We had an interesting run in with Animal farm which sounds very similar with yours
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#47 - 2014-01-22 15:34:46 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Proclus Diadochu wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
wh 'rules' are getting out of hand - don't make more.


You mean like your rule that we have to pod? You play your way, let others play their way.



I like snarky - it suits you. Your 'rough' interpretation of what I said is..... bad. I'm reaching out to my contacts in CNN - they need more guys like you.


Delusional and condescending don't really suit you, but fear not, I've contacted the boys at Fox News and they have a spot reserved just for you!

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Key Dett
West Indies Squadron
#48 - 2014-01-22 15:44:25 UTC
unimatrix0030 wrote:
Sounds like everyone had fun!
I love reading those battlereports, keep em coming!



We missed you guys by minutes last night. We got to the mag you were connected to as you finished rolling.
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-01-23 14:14:07 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Not to back Joan, but if you had podded them all out.... it's not like they wouldn't come back and do it again. It's a cool gesture I guess, but I would say those that come to fight understand that podding happens - especially in wh. I've let maybe 3 pods go in my eve career. All very new folks that I guess at the time seemed like the right thing to do.

All I'm saying is let's not get some unwritten understanding that pods should be let go. They shouldn't. It can happen, but doesn't have to. I don't let pods go and never will. I got podded earlier this week in empire (???? yeah right ????). I don't even know who it was. Never really looked. I poached a few mission BS, got a kill right activated and pop. I'm not quitting eve and neither will sky fighters if they happen to get podded.


short version - wh 'rules' are getting out of hand - don't make more.


you fail to understand the point

i cant be bothered. if were in a fight pods will be killed without second thought, we had some smartbombing tengu that sent several home.

but once the fight is over, i am not going to chase pods through my system. i am not going to camp my static for endless hours try to catch those pods. the only thing they can do is selfdestruct. and what could i possible gain from them selfdestructing? i cant even scan down their corpse.

the pods in my system are dscan clutter that i can do without. we let them go back, they are out of my system, they are where they want to be, everyone wins. The fact that they can fight again against us or maybe even you is just the cherry on top
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#50 - 2014-01-23 14:53:57 UTC
I think you guys might be missing my point. I just don't want another unwritten rule. I wasn't trying to tell anyone what to do or what not to do with pods.

I'll try to be more clear:

I don't let pods go (though your camping/clean up arguement has much merit). I'm not judging anyone for their actions one way or the other on post battle pod management (heh).

If WH guys get podded I don't think it will deter them coming back in the future.


We already have the arbitrary 'WH bros have to fight or they are unwothy' thing going. I just don't want to see 'we have to let pods go after a good fight' get traction.

I don't want to have Kieth Richards pulling out 'the code' and reading me my list of infractions at the end of the day. We fight, we choose not to fight, we pod, we choose not to pod - whatever. There's just too many folks telling other folks how it has to be done. I'm against that. So... my post was a request not to make letting pods go a rule. I fear for losing that mad max picture they put under wh life and having it replaced with a picture of Miss Manners.
Talaq
Failure is an Option
#51 - 2014-01-23 15:44:26 UTC
There isn't a rule to not pod, in all fairness this just happens between groups that skirmish in w-space more often, it's just a courtesy thing cause the next day we might just fly together vs someone else.

(cept Bane ofc, the APB stands for allways pod Bane.)

It's always dependent on who is there, if there is a corp that just always pods post fight, I'm sure they can expect the favor back at them if the role's are reversed.



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chris elliot
Treasury Department
Plug N Play
#52 - 2014-01-23 19:46:39 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:


Who are you and what have you done with Ama? The Ama i know struggles to write full sentences, posts **** pics in nullsec local, gets themselves banned and gets kicked from our TS server constantly :P





As a fellow obsessive boob poster I too am surprised at the quality if his post.
Onomerous
Caldari Black Hand
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#53 - 2014-01-23 20:06:06 UTC
I didn't even know we were still active in WHs anymore...
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#54 - 2014-01-23 20:12:41 UTC
Onomerous wrote:
I didn't even know we were still active in WHs anymore...


You do have a c2 corp in your alliance lol

No trolling please

Talaq
Failure is an Option
#55 - 2014-01-23 20:22:57 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Onomerous wrote:
I didn't even know we were still active in WHs anymore...


You do have a c2 corp in your alliance lol



shh we are cloaked

Low-Class Diplomat

Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#56 - 2014-01-23 20:37:41 UTC
Talaq wrote:



shh we are cloaked



OMG AFK CLOAKING! NERF! NERF!

No trolling please

Nash MacAllister
Air
The Initiative.
#57 - 2014-01-23 21:02:33 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Onomerous wrote:
I didn't even know we were still active in WHs anymore...


You do have a c2 corp in your alliance lol


Nobody in alliance knows where we come from, but they are happy when our fleets show up. Blink

Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...

Onomerous
Caldari Black Hand
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#58 - 2014-01-24 16:33:10 UTC
Nash MacAllister wrote:
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Onomerous wrote:
I didn't even know we were still active in WHs anymore...


You do have a c2 corp in your alliance lol


Nobody in alliance knows where we come from, but they are happy when our fleets show up. Blink


Oops I knew we had added some good corps to the Alliance but didn't know anything about them. Now I know!!


p.s. WHs are the best part of EVE... if you can get people to fight you.
Malcolm Rennolds
Inquisition FiS Division
#59 - 2014-01-26 04:09:51 UTC
I view wormholes as group voracious tribal bands living under a isk faucet, drinking together one night and heartily brawling together the next. W-space can be Valahala, a eternity of good food, good booze and good fights, or it can be Nastrond where you fly ships of toenails and writhe around in snake venom.

Yet, I like pod kills. I'm also too lazy to try for them, especially vs people I respect or who might have reinforcements coming. In a 20v20 it's easy enough to afford a hic/dictor. In a 2v3 it's not worth the dps or utility loss. When I get a clean sweep or catch someone failing to roll a hole correctly I'll shoot there ship but I'm not gonna hold it on field while I bring a bubble or hictor**.

I'm not saying people shouldn't pod or that they should seek gf's instead of wins. Just realize that if you consistently seek wins over something resembling a gf your gonna find people pos'ing up and logging off instead of fighting. You view wormholes as the wild, untamed frontiers where everyone and everything must be killed so you can live alone in peace with your friends? Burn/pod/blob to your hearts content, that's certainly a valid view and one that I had when I lived in a c6. You want fights? You want people to match fleet comp/size? You want more than 10% of wormholes to have active corps that will fight? Make losing fun. Make people feel like they had a chance, had a good time even when they lose. Ask yourself "What would random lowsec pirate living in Tama/Rancer/Amamake do here?" and then do the opposite.

*Yeah it's a loaded term, sue me. My definition is:

Approximately equal fleets, both fleets had an equally effective trick (every fleet has a trick, or is a bad fleet)
No one excessively brought reinforcements (3 person fleet brings in a cloaky loki scout, fine. 3 person fleet has 8 people log in, it might be gg but it's not a gf)
No one excessively upshipped (Example: had someone hold me on a wormhole a few weeks ago while they reshipped from bombers to t1 BC's to t3 BC's, and when that didn't work to t3 BC's with battleship support at which point I jumped, cloaked and ran away)
No on sh*t posted in local (unless funny or clever and clearly without malice).

**Unless you're from a blobby corp and I remember to turn my damn drones off.
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#60 - 2014-01-26 04:55:24 UTC
Malcolm Rennolds wrote:
I view wormholes as group voracious tribal bands living under a isk faucet, drinking together one night and heartily brawling together the next. W-space can be Valhalla, a eternity of good food, good booze and good fights, or it can be Nastrond where you fly ships of toenails and writhe around in snake venom.


Your words string together perfection; that which the dreams of children and kittens are born. Please, continue.

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