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Armageddon overboosted & imbalance in ships bonuses.
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rainy missesyou
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-01-22 20:24:17 UTC
Hey, new armageddon very overboosted bonuse for range neuts with bonuse for drone damage make that ship imbalanced in fights.
And why Armageddon/Scorpion have bonuses for electronics but matar/galente dont have same?
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-01-22 20:38:22 UTC
What I read from that is "Why are ships different?". Also the Dominix is better than the Armageddon as a pure drone boat. Do you have any examples of how the Armageddon is OP? It can't neut any more than any other standard BS. It just gets a bit more range on its neuts. There are these things called roles, ships have them.
Mario Putzo
#3 - 2014-01-22 20:44:30 UTC
Matar and Gal have BS that get repair bonuses...no other races have that.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#4 - 2014-01-22 21:46:13 UTC
They are still easy to kill.

Just don't derp.

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Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2014-01-23 01:21:22 UTC
Please show us on the phalic doll where the giant curse touched you.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-01-23 01:24:27 UTC
Froggy Storm wrote:
Please show us on the phalic doll where the giant curse touched you.


It's not that they "touch" you.... They will suck your umm cap dry Blink
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-01-23 15:11:24 UTC
rainy missesyou wrote:
Hey, new armageddon very overboosted bonuse for range neuts with bonuse for drone damage make that ship imbalanced in fights.
And why Armageddon/Scorpion have bonuses for electronics but matar/galente dont have same?



variation between races is goo mkay?

If the armageddon is overpowered than what the hyperion and the dominix are?


Want tosee a real imbalance? Comapre hyperion and tempest. Hyperion has, more cap, more HP, More damage, More drones, More low slots, Extra repair bonus (yes it has more damage using a single bonus against tempest 2)...

what tempest have? Smaller signature radius ( but considerablly larger than what used to be before Tiercide) and 1 extra neut.



The armageddon slight overdone power level is NOTHING compared to that.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-01-23 15:12:14 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Matar and Gal have BS that get repair bonuses...no other races have that.



sure.. they have Better.. they have RESIST bonuses... that are far superior

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#9 - 2014-01-23 15:27:21 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Matar and Gal have BS that get repair bonuses...no other races have that.



sure.. they have Better.. they have RESIST bonuses... that are far superior

That WERE far superior

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-01-23 15:37:57 UTC
To be fair, the proper Minmatar comparison to a Hyperion should be a Maelstrom, not a Tempest - the Tempest's Gallente analogue would be the Megathron.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#11 - 2014-01-23 16:04:00 UTC
Minnie and Gall dont have one cause damping and target painting bs would be stupid. A web Range BS would be Overpowered and a long pointing bs would also be stupid.
Gnadolin
Space Pioneers
#12 - 2014-01-23 18:04:20 UTC
Icarus Able wrote:
A web Range BS would be Overpowered.


Bhaalgorn?
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#13 - 2014-01-23 19:05:13 UTC
Gnadolin wrote:
Icarus Able wrote:
A web Range BS would be Overpowered.


Bhaalgorn?



A billion isk pirate BS is a little different me thinks.
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#14 - 2014-01-23 20:00:30 UTC
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Gnadolin wrote:
Icarus Able wrote:
A web Range BS would be Overpowered.


Bhaalgorn?



A billion isk pirate BS is a little different me thinks.

I'm sure that bhaals wouldbe flown more if the Web bonus was op.

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2014-01-23 20:01:39 UTC
if geddons are op why is everyone flying domis!?

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#16 - 2014-01-23 20:22:49 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
if geddons are op why is everyone flying domis!?


It's simple:
1. The armageddon is over-powered.
2. Potato shaped hulls are in.

I don't see any problems with the geddon. Nuets are overpowered? They seem pretty reasonable. Agree with Chainsaw though, the Domi is awesome and I love it.

This thread turned trolly quicker than usual.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-01-23 20:50:26 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
if geddons are op why is everyone flying domis!?


They just don't know how superior the Amarr race is! Lol
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-01-24 06:14:57 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
rainy missesyou wrote:
Hey, new armageddon very overboosted bonuse for range neuts with bonuse for drone damage make that ship imbalanced in fights.
And why Armageddon/Scorpion have bonuses for electronics but matar/galente dont have same?



variation between races is goo mkay?

If the armageddon is overpowered than what the hyperion and the dominix are?


Want tosee a real imbalance? Comapre hyperion and tempest. Hyperion has, more cap, more HP, More damage, More drones, More low slots, Extra repair bonus (yes it has more damage using a single bonus against tempest 2)...

what tempest have? Smaller signature radius ( but considerablly larger than what used to be before Tiercide) and 1 extra neut.



The armageddon slight overdone power level is NOTHING compared to that.



shush you, don't bring attention to my beloved Gallente ships. . i don't want them to change. . well i want the police lights back on my comet.. but that's it.

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

Valleria Darkmoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-01-24 06:24:39 UTC
Noxisia Arkana wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
if geddons are op why is everyone flying domis!?

2. Potato shaped hulls are in.


Where is Phantasms?? I am not seeing.

Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#20 - 2014-01-24 06:47:30 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
rainy missesyou wrote:
Hey, new armageddon very overboosted bonuse for range neuts with bonuse for drone damage make that ship imbalanced in fights.
And why Armageddon/Scorpion have bonuses for electronics but matar/galente dont have same?



variation between races is goo mkay?

If the armageddon is overpowered than what the hyperion and the dominix are?


Want tosee a real imbalance? Comapre hyperion and tempest. Hyperion has, more cap, more HP, More damage, More drones, More low slots, Extra repair bonus (yes it has more damage using a single bonus against tempest 2)...

what tempest have? Smaller signature radius ( but considerablly larger than what used to be before Tiercide) and 1 extra neut.



The armageddon slight overdone power level is NOTHING compared to that.



Why would this be a suprise to you. Both ships reflect racial ethos.

The hyperion is the biggest brawler, and has the biggest, brawliest stats. it is however a slug, with either poor projection or poor accuracy and there no solving both of those at once with it. It must be landed at whatever range it supposed to be at, and your gang or circumstances must conspire to keep it there, otherwise it becomes a useless punching bag.
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