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Is roleplaying as a woman a sign of homosexuality?

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Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
#41 - 2014-01-23 12:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Diamond Zerg
Tbh if I have them mine are rather limited, but I think many gay men like Ian McKellen are incredible people.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with homosexual desires Angelica.
I'm just asking the honest question to folks like yourself: do you think you might be a bit gay?

Could it possibly make you feel happy to admit that you have these tendencies, and that's part of why you roleplay females?
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CCP Falcon
#42 - 2014-01-23 12:42:14 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Doesn't that strike you as an indicator, at least in some cases, for homosexual tendencies?


So, this thread kind of smells a little bit trollish, but I'll give a response because when taken seriously, the choices we make when we create an avatar are pretty interesting, and I find the sociology behind the EVE Universe and how we all interact within it pretty fascinating.

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As a guy who quite openly admits that he likes guys and girls, (I've joked with a lot of players about cute Gallente and Caldari guys on these forums), I see this as an absolutely ludicrous statement.

There are plenty of gay guys out there, there are plenty of gay women out there, and there are plenty of people who are quite happy attracted to both genders. There are also quite a few people who're unsure of their gender, or feel they'd like to switch gender.

There are also those who've been bold enough to take steps to move forward with that change under the eyes of what can often be a very judgmental and superficial society that, in certain circles, remains very obsessed purely with physical attributes and appearance.

I've actually spoken to a lot of EVE players regarding this over the years, specifically guys who play female characters, and girls who play male characters (who believe me, there are more of than you think!).

Do we then flip the statement you made, in order to say that a woman playing a male character also has homosexual tendencies?

I also think that statement is absolutely ludicrous.


  • Perhaps some people select a gender and appearance based on what they find attractive?
  • Perhaps others select the same attributes based on what they feel is within themselves as a form of self expression?
  • Maybe others select those attributes based on what they feel other people might find attractive?
  • Perhaps some others see it as a form of escapism, and it's entirely unrelated to their preference of personal gender, or sexual preference?
  • Still, some people may just look to create an avatar that's funny in appearance or is otherwise amusing to themselves or other people.


Maybe there are other explanations for why people chose a different gender when creating an avatar to represent themselves in an online game?

I think that for the best part, in some way shape for form, people's avatars are an expression of themselves. How that expression relates to the player behind the digital representation they choose to portray in the EVE Universe, is locked entirely within their own mind, and their business alone unless they decide that they want to share it with a wider audience.

Everyone has their own opinion of what they find attractive or otherwise appealing, and sometimes that doesn't even factor into the thought process when people create avatars.

I don't think that the selection of a specific gender for your avatar in an online game, when compared in relation to your real life gender, has any tangible link with real word sexual orientation at all, and to be fair I could see how some people actually might be insulted by that kind of insinuation.

Just my two cents! P

Also, moving this to Out of Pod Experience!

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Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
#43 - 2014-01-23 12:42:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Diamond Zerg
CCP Falcon.... Thank you for your response.
When I saw your name in the notifications I thought the thread had been locked.

My friend I'm not insinuating that all men who roleplay as women have homosexual tendencies, I'm suggesting that SOME of them MIGHT.

You say that the avatars are often an expression of oneself.
Don't you think it likely that men who represent themselves with feminine avatars would on average have more gay tendencies?

Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more feminine? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick?
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Arnpior
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#44 - 2014-01-23 12:45:02 UTC

I've chosen female avatars in other games primarily because it looks better than staring at a big beefy male toon. That doesn't really apply in EvE for the most part.... so I dont see myself rolling up a female alt anytime soon. To answer the OP, NO I dont think your avatar choices in any way reflect on who you are as a person irl.
CCP Falcon
#45 - 2014-01-23 12:47:44 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more feminine? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick?


As a guy who has a lot of gay, bisexual and transgender friends, I can safely say that you absolutely have the wrong end of the stick!

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#46 - 2014-01-23 12:50:52 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
CCP Falcon.... Thank you for your response.
When I saw your name in the notifications I thought the thread had been locked.

My friend I'm not insinuating that all men who roleplay as women have homosexual tendencies, I'm suggesting that SOME of them MIGHT.

You say that the avatars are often an expression of oneself.
Don't you think it likely that men who represent themselves with feminine avatars would on average have more gay tendencies?

Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more feminine? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick?

Wow....

You couldn't have missed the boat any further. If you are not a troll, you need to open your eyes and get some education. Maybe start reading the responses that people have been posting on this bridge.

I have a female toon. She is, IMHO, much prettier to look at than this one. Does it make me gay that I'd rather look at an attractive female avatar? Hope not....otherwise my wife will be in for a surprise.

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#47 - 2014-01-23 12:51:38 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more feminine? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick?


As a guy who has a lot of gay, bisexual and transgender friends, I can safely say that you absolutely have the wrong end of the stick!

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Confirmed.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#48 - 2014-01-23 13:05:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
I am not even going to read the thread before I post my initial response.

You are assuming that homosexuality is a feminine characteristic. Most cross dressers are straight Blink

EDIT: Oh, and I know a number of 'bears' that would crush the average male and they truly like slobbing the nob Twisted




And yes, I am straight and definitely role played females before. Dominant females but females none the less.
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#49 - 2014-01-23 13:12:17 UTC  |  Edited by: embrel
Diamond Zerg wrote:


Could it possibly make you feel happy to admit that you have these tendencies, and that's part of why you roleplay females?


I always thought gay was about boy-on-boy action. So, I'm still wondering what a female avatar would have to do with it.

If in other games you chose to be a dwarf...
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#50 - 2014-01-23 13:24:27 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
I'm just asking the honest question to folks like yourself: do you think you might be a bit gay?


Nope, not at all.

But again confirming that you should probably let other people worry about who they're ******* instead of worrying so much about who they're *******.

You really do have other things to worry about mate - like becoming a warlord. Blink

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Jowen Datloran
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Caldari State
#51 - 2014-01-23 14:15:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jowen Datloran
As a heterosexual male, I get sexually attracted at women, right? So I make my avatar a female to look at her nice bum.

The OP made his character a male, so he gets to look at male bum. Hm...

Appears like the OP has no clue about what the word "homosexual" actually means, or the difference to "cross-dresser".

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CCP Falcon
#52 - 2014-01-23 14:35:51 UTC
So, this is a valid discussion regarding why people choose the avatars they do, and the social commentary surrounding them.

Let's be sure to keep the responses clean and civil, because I'd like this thread to stay open for people to comment freely.

I'm going to give it a quick clean up, so lets keep the topic on the right track!

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Sodium Canine
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2014-01-23 14:37:46 UTC
Altrue wrote:


People make three types of avatars :
- Those meant to represent who they are
- Those meant to represent who they want to be
- Those meant to represent who they want to play. (Which is the correct definition of an in-game avatar. In this category you will find some people who rightfully want their game to be far from their daily life. Others who just don't care.)

I'm going to assume some numbers but I believe they are close to the truth.
5% belongs to the fist (CCP devs likes to do that I noticed :D)
5% belongs to the second.
90% belongs to the third category. In this case you can say that your avatar is also a character.



There's a 4th type: Avatars that are slapped together in 60 seconds or so to get on with more important things. o/

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#54 - 2014-01-23 14:49:43 UTC
Sodium Canine wrote:
Altrue wrote:


People make three types of avatars :
- Those meant to represent who they are
- Those meant to represent who they want to be
- Those meant to represent who they want to play. (Which is the correct definition of an in-game avatar. In this category you will find some people who rightfully want their game to be far from their daily life. Others who just don't care.)

I'm going to assume some numbers but I believe they are close to the truth.
5% belongs to the fist (CCP devs likes to do that I noticed :D)
5% belongs to the second.
90% belongs to the third category. In this case you can say that your avatar is also a character.



There's a 4th type: Avatars that are slapped together in 60 seconds or so to get on with more important things. o/



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#55 - 2014-01-23 14:52:05 UTC
Maybe I just wanted a cute face to look at.

Way back when I created this character with the original character creator and Achura being all the rage I initial made a male character but changed my mind after seeing just how ugly they were. The female Achura was something I could actually look at and not be disappointed with.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#56 - 2014-01-23 14:55:54 UTC
Sodium Canine wrote:

There's a 4th type: Avatars that are slapped together in 60 seconds or so to get on with more important things. o/

Indeed.

Quite a lot of forum posters are former/current hauler alts that mostly have been created using the "randomize" buttons.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#57 - 2014-01-23 14:59:05 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
So, this is a valid discussion regarding why people choose the avatars they do, and the social commentary surrounding them.

Let's be sure to keep the responses clean and civil, because I'd like this thread to stay open for people to comment freely.

I'm going to give it a quick clean up, so lets keep the topic on the right track!

Smile


WooT!

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A Band Apart.
#58 - 2014-01-23 15:00:09 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
CCP Falcon.... Thank you for your response.
When I saw your name in the notifications I thought the thread had been locked.

My friend I'm not insinuating that all men who roleplay as women have homosexual tendencies, I'm suggesting that SOME of them MIGHT.

You say that the avatars are often an expression of oneself.
Don't you think it likely that men who represent themselves with feminine avatars would on average have more gay tendencies?

Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more feminine? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick?

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#59 - 2014-01-23 15:14:58 UTC
i created a troll mage in warcraft. he was a male. being that i am not male in reality....I think this is clearly indicative that I wish I was a lesbian. a blue skinned lesbian. a lesbian with massive 18 inch tusks sticking out of my face.

I can think of nothing more satisfying in the overall psychosexual scheme of things.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#60 - 2014-01-23 15:15:28 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more feminine? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick?


As a guy who has a lot of gay, bisexual and transgender friends, I can safely say that you absolutely have the wrong end of the stick!

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Definitely the wrong end of the 'stick'.

Dammit Diamond! Get on the right in of the stick ShockedTwisted