EVE General Discussion

Dear CCP

Not long ago there was a large-scale battle in HED-GP, in which many ships were destroyed. The fight was spoiled with terrible lags and thousands of players suffered from inability to do anything with their ships for many hours, because now you obviously can’t make your systems function fluently and without problems when too many pilots come together in one system. As we found out, you are going to introduce a number of serious changes in the current game mechanics and you have started work on them. We will see if it will help or make the situation worse, but in theory they seem to be sensible and it might work. If so, Eve Online will become a more interesting and pleasant game to play, so we wish you good luck.

But unfortunately not only lags and TD make so many pilots feel displeased and even angry after such battles. We all know that good ships are expensive and it takes much time and effort to gather isks for them by mining, ratting, doing missions etc. And when pilots lose such ships not because of their lack of experience or the objective superiority of enemies, but due to some system failures and technical defects in the game you have developed – It is rather disappointing. But the most discouraging fact is that when the players sent you petitions giving proves that the problem was on your side and asking for reimbursement – they got nothing but excuses. You said that it was a large-scale battle and you don’t recompense for ships lost in large-scale battles as it is indicated in section 5 of the reimbursement rules. The pilots were recommended to turn for explanations to their coalition leaders, and the coalition leaders were asked to prevent their members from sending petitions within the framework of cooperation with you. You called it be most honest and fair decision in this situation.

But the point is that we disagree with such a statement and believe that such a decision is an apparent injustice towards common players. Section 5 in the form that we know today violates every idea of fair agreement and needs elimination/modification. Ingame values lost by players as a result of defects in developers’ work and program malfunction must be recompensed regardless to the number of players decided to take part in this or that battle. It is not clear what you consider to be a large-scale fight - whether 40 or 400 or 4000 pilots must be involved in it, and since there are no official indication anywhere no one can be sure that the rule won’t be applied to this or that case. Should common pilots tell fortunes how many other players will take part in the battle and whether it will be later called a large-scale non-compensible fight when they jump into a system? Such refusal to recompense foe ingame values lost in large-scale encounter in the game which claimes large-scale encounters to be one of the main achievements looks like unconscientious advertising and mockery at common players. Thank god we can be sure that it is not true and we hope you also believe that Eve players mustn’t suffer losses because of the development or functional shortcomings .

That is why we ask you to recompense all ships to those pilots who sent you reimbursement requests and provided proves of technical reasons which became a reason of their ship loss. And we ask you to eliminate or modify section 5 of the reimbursement rules to make sure that every pilot will get his ship back if he loses it because of you. That is what we believe to be an honest and just decision showing your respect and willingness to help us.

If you still won’t be able to do it for some reason we think that you might feel obliged to gamers who want to start playing Eve Online and buy their first plexes from the official site about the fact that in this game their ships can be destroyed in a strange and indefinable way because some game aspects are still half-backed and you will probably want them to study carefully the reimbursement policy because as you can see some pilots didn’t pay much attention to until it was too late. As you must be very busy with fixing lags we – as an independent group of creative altruists and eager beavers decided to help you and to do it by ourselves. We are preparing a set of videos and surveys which will help people to see Eve Online from inside, to feel the inexpressible amicability in the relations between the development department of CCP Online and eve players’ community. We want them to realize the fun they will be able to enjoy for many hours in the battles like we had is HED-GP and encourage them to download the game. We will also be glad to inform them which sections of EULA they should pay special attention to before they press “I Agree”. We don’t need any gratitude for that there are lots of people who just want to help you somehow and they will spread our creation all over the game forums in no time.

Thank you, looking forward to hear news concerning reimbursement.

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The first thread got locked.

Then someone else reposted it and it got locked.

Now another, same content, better paragraphs (kind of) and I'm am betting I know where this is going.

So

IB4L

Blobber tears, almost as good as ganker tears.

Are these the same nullsec people that told the all the highsec whiners who lost shiney mission and incursion ships in the last live event to HTFU as TIDI and lag was just part of the game?

posting in a dead thread.

No (tldr anyway) thats what going into fights is all about ****wit, loosing **** :P

OP is pathetic. Get over it.

Tidi is not the problem.
Not being able to load grid or activate modules at all is.

WE DONT CARE ....... PLEASE UNSUB AND UNINSTALL AND GTFO OR LEARN NOT TO FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO NOT REPLACE

SERIOUSLY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH