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Snot Shot
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2014-01-22 19:00:56 UTC
Maybe it’s time you Goonies abandon or adjust you’re worn out, but go to, response of “we’re not here to ruin the game, we’re here to ruin your game”………..seeing as it backfired a bit in this case…Ugh


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could break up the giant blue circle jerk you’ve created out of null sec which directly contributes to the number of pilots you think you need in order to win a fight?..Idea

  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could not “Third party” into an already large engagement between two other coalitions which didn’t see many TiDi and crashed nodes until you chuckle fucks showed up?...Idea


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could learn how to apply skill to flying your ships in order to win engagements instead of relying on ridiculous numbers to crash nodes, TiDi systems, or create blue ball situations?....Idea


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could put pressure on your ALIANCE LEADERS and tell them to stop circle jerking you sheep around by feeding you this bull **** of SOVs broken to justify the endless blue lists you folks “enjoy” yet create the situation your crying about?....Idea


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could play the game as it was intended……….you know, a space game where you shoot other ships not in your Alliance, instead of keeping it stuck in this cycle where you blame CCP for all the lies you fall for that Goonies feed you as to why things are the way they are?....Idea


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could stop pretending that its CCPs fault for not developing a game with the capabilities, yet, to allow RARE 3,000+ pilot fights to occur flawlessly as if they happen every day of the week and you have so many other games to choose from that offer something better ffs?...Idea

  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could stop buying into this bull **** being fed to you by The Martini and his minions that “X” is broken and therefore we need “X” done before the game will be fun again and until then its CCPs fault….. If you haven’t caught on by now that something will always be “broken” to keep you all from seeing that your just sheep being used to keep The Martini in new yoga pants and his new website making money hand over fist so he doesn’t need to work a real job (like you do) ever again…..Idea

Anywhoo…………TLDR……… stop being so ******* gullible, man the **** up and start demanding that your Alliance leaders start playing the game ffs instead of wasting your time by making someone who coined the phrase “we’re not here to ruin the game, we’re here to ruin your game”, tried to get a depressed/suicidal guy griefed into kill himself, all while he rarely even logs into play the game, publically states the game is horrible and yet makes a lot of RL advertising/website money though you keeping him and Goons “at the top”……Roll

Fly safe!..Pirate
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RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2014-01-22 19:03:08 UTC
I watched on twitch (while mining. throw a little salt in the wound). The entire fight seemed legit.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#83 - 2014-01-22 19:16:10 UTC
Snot Shot wrote:
Maybe it’s time you Goonies abandon or adjust you’re worn out, but go to, response of “we’re not here to ruin the game, we’re here to ruin your game”………..seeing as it backfired a bit in this case…Ugh


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could break up the giant blue circle jerk you’ve created out of null sec which directly contributes to the number of pilots you think you need in order to win a fight?..Idea

  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could not “Third party” into an already large engagement between two other coalitions which didn’t see many TiDi and crashed nodes until you chuckle fucks showed up?...Idea


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could learn how to apply skill to flying your ships in order to win engagements instead of relying on ridiculous numbers to crash nodes, TiDi systems, or create blue ball situations?....Idea


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could put pressure on your ALIANCE LEADERS and tell them to stop circle jerking you sheep around by feeding you this bull **** of SOVs broken to justify the endless blue lists you folks “enjoy” yet create the situation your crying about?....Idea


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could play the game as it was intended……….you know, a space game where you shoot other ships not in your Alliance, instead of keeping it stuck in this cycle where you blame CCP for all the lies you fall for that Goonies feed you as to why things are the way they are?....Idea


  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could stop pretending that its CCPs fault for not developing a game with the capabilities, yet, to allow RARE 3,000+ pilot fights to occur flawlessly as if they happen every day of the week and you have so many other games to choose from that offer something better ffs?...Idea

  • Or you Goon pet Alliances could stop buying into this bull **** being fed to you by The Martini and his minions that “X” is broken and therefore we need “X” done before the game will be fun again and until then its CCPs fault….. If you haven’t caught on by now that something will always be “broken” to keep you all from seeing that your just sheep being used to keep The Martini in new yoga pants and his new website making money hand over fist so he doesn’t need to work a real job (like you do) ever again…..Idea

Anywhoo…………TLDR……… stop being so ******* gullible, man the **** up and start demanding that your Alliance leaders start playing the game ffs instead of wasting your time by making someone who coined the phrase “we’re not here to ruin the game, we’re here to ruin your game”, tried to get a depressed/suicidal guy griefed into kill himself, all while he rarely even logs into play the game, publically states the game is horrible and yet makes a lot of RL advertising/website money though you keeping him and Goons “at the top”……Roll

Fly safe!..Pirate
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batowarrior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#84 - 2014-01-22 19:20:33 UTC
Waffle haus 2014

lol but seriously tidi blows.
Mario Putzo
#85 - 2014-01-22 19:26:20 UTC
batowarrior wrote:
Waffle haus 2014

lol but seriously tidi blows.


Its a lot better than getting black screened when 600 dudes show up in the same system.
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#86 - 2014-01-22 19:27:24 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
The protest was yesterday. There was cake.

We missed you. Several people asked "Hey, where's that one guy who made that thing?" and people were like "Dude had somewhere else to be obviously... duh." to which I totally replied "Wait...that one guy is gone?!?!?! Its not really a party without that one guy. Sadface."

Yes, I totally said the word sadface. It was a low point in my evening and by then I had maybe like 5 too many Rum and Colas. It had to be generic store brand cola because Steve, also known as that other guy who did that one thing, got wasted last week and made fun on Coca-Cola, and they pulled the vending machine out of the lounge. Just disgraceful. Anyways, the Rum and Colas were still pretty good and I had too many of them.

Back to the story, There was cake. Good cake. No lie! It had frosting AND filling..made of frosting! We were all like NO WAY! It was damn fine cake. I had like..2 pieces or something. I totally spilled some down the front of this one chick... and one thing lead to another.. and she slapped me. It wasn't really a first. Ive been slapped about 6 times in my life, but this was the first time I got slapped by a handful of cake. She apologized and we shared a laugh. Ill be seeing her tomorrow night for some nachos. Women like nachos right? I have a coupon, so i figured nachos would be awesome.

Next time, read the alliance memo dude. That totally could have been you with rum and cola, cake and cake slap with a date with a girl and some nachos. Really nothing to protest about.




I like Cake.

I missed Cake Sad

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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2014-01-22 19:43:27 UTC
Arboledaw wrote:


Goon posting is bad, no disagreement there :)



FTFY

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Talon Kane
ExeKrab
#88 - 2014-01-22 20:55:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Talon Kane
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
People weren't blowing up busses, they were standing on the street corner trying to get on one, having paid the bus company in advance for a ride. But when a bus did show up it was full, so they put some people on the roof, hanging out of windows for dear life, while telling others to wait forever for another bus to chug down the road making them late for work... The bus company who keeps seeing these spikes in route demand put soft drink dispensers in the bus, rather than addressing the core service issue.

Perhaps they need bigger busses, or a better bus dispatch system that can dynamically send busses to a route that sees a spike in consumer demand...who knows; the key though is its not the bus RIDER responsible for solving this mess, but the bus company. If you can't support your clients, don't accept their fees (or refund their fees when service fails).

In short, the consumer paid for a service, the provider is failing at providing it. Is this because they are focussing on launching their new airline service "Dusty Wings Over My Azz"? Who can guess...

What is really sad though are the stockholm syndrome bus riders who have been trapped on these busses for so long, that addition of said drink dispenser is all they need to naysay anyone complaining about the ****** bus service.


**** me... my entire wall of text got deleted by my own mistake...

Anyway... the bus comparison is not right... people don't pay their sub to play BLOB online, they pay to play EVE online, and CCP delivers.
The game is playable and enjoyable, some people might want to try other activities beside blob fights, or find other war tactics. I cannot believe blob fight is the only way to gain SOV.

Even though it would be possible to get lagless blob fights, at what cost will we get it? If it's an acceptable one, I'm all out for it.

And don't get me wrong, even though CCP delivers, they've done stuff that needed to be criticize of course and they will do more stuff that will be criticize, but I think they're trying pretty hard to make those blob fights work, unfortunatly, technology never seems to be on par with our dreams. I think they should stop trying to improve blob fights and instead work on the multiple other activites this game has to offer.
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Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#89 - 2014-01-22 20:58:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Billy McCandless
Infinite buses are a lie spread by the bourgeois.

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#90 - 2014-01-22 21:15:59 UTC
Themanfromdalmontee wrote:
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Arboledaw wrote:
I work on server software and we gradually figure out how to make it more and more scalability. I don't know CCP's software but I believe that with effort, they can do it. It's easy but it's doable.


The issue is actually not so much the number of people in system, though that was stressing things pretty heavily. The issue is session changes, which happen when, for example, you jump a gate, enter a wormhole, undock, dock, or cyno into a system. Each player's session change is a DB query for All The Things, particularly skills and implants. If you cyno in 1500 people at once, you're going to spike Time Dilation hard because the server has to put everything on hold while it runs 1500 queries to support 1500 session changes. If you cyno 1500 people on grid with 1500 other people, then you have to send 1500*1500 notifications out in addition to all the session changes, with all of those tasks hitting the same thread that the physics engine lives in. If Time Dilation is already spiked hard... welp.

CCP is working on solutions for both problems--the so-called "brain in a box" to ease the burden of session changes, and a parallel (heh) project to pass the notification tasks (the 1500x1500 problem) to a thread running on (an)other core(s) on the same server. Until they announce those fixes, which are not simple, the tactic employed by RUS/CFC, while admirably ballsy, is more or less guaranteed to bring any server CCP uses to its knees if the force they're cynoing into is as big as PL/N3's was that day.

The work CCP is doing is essentially post-doctoral research (as in, CCP has hired post-docs to do the work on the basis of their dissertation subjects). If you're up for that, and you don't mind living in Iceland, send in a resume. Otherwise you'll just have to join the rest of us in accepting that you know little to nothing about the problems they're facing and why they're as intractable as they are. You can learn as much as their is to learn by spelunking through ca. 2011 and 2012 dev blogs and by stalking CCP Veritas on the forums.


HERE HERE!

Coming when, soon(tm)?

Would you like to know more?
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#91 - 2014-01-22 21:35:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Dersen Lowery
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Coming when, soon(tm)?


To quote John Carmack: when it's done.

It's one thing to say, "they're gonna need a bigger bus," as if it was just some incredibly simple solution that hadn't occurred to them for whatever reason. They've been working on this since 2011 or so. The dev blogs at the time show an absolutely lucid sense of what needs to happen. If it hasn't happened yet, maybe it's just not as simple as ordering a bigger bus.

Since this thread was started with someone who works on servers, the mentality here is that of an application developer who thinks that because the OS supplies him with a 64-bit address space he can use it all willy-nilly, and it's the hardware's fault if the application runs poorly because the server "only" has 32GB of actual RAM. Actually, it's the application developer's fault for working in a vacuum instead of working within the resources of the machine he'll be deploying to.

Freedoms come with responsibilities. If you want the freedom to pile as many people into system as you can, without a limit preset by CCP, then you must also accept the responsibility to work within the limitations imposed by the server. Nobody is forced to cling to the roof of your hypothetical bus.

The messaging problem--updating everyone on grid about the status of everyone else on grid--is geometric, or possibly a bit better than geometric if you're clever (if I remember CCP Veritas correctly). What this means in practice is that the benefit of increasing performance by a linear amount X is proportional to log2(X)--you get rapidly decreasing results for linear performance improvements, which will eventually decrease to the point of imperceptibility no matter how big X is. CCP's most optimistic estimates on how much will be saved by the brain-in-a-box and the threaded messaging service fall well short of the factor-of-ten improvement allowed by Time Dilation. The population limits you're looking at now are pretty close to the population limits that the current hardware will ever support.

No amount of complaining will change that fact.

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Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#92 - 2014-01-22 21:46:30 UTC
I do love it when actual intelligent people respond rather than mongos.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2014-01-22 21:51:30 UTC
Best way to protest is to reduce the 2 sides in dullsec down to 1 with more recruiting and try to shove then all into one system for an epic tear fest.

Then the sane people can sit back and laugh at you some more.

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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#94 - 2014-01-22 21:54:10 UTC
i do not see any reason why op should whine about 0.0 it is just how they made it.
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ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#95 - 2014-01-22 22:25:49 UTC
Duplicate topic. Topic locked.

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