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Recon Rebalance
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#1 - 2014-01-22 12:19:04 UTC
So yea, when is it gonna happen? I'm sure everyone appreciates all the shiny mobile structures but FIS in recons that don't suck would mean alot.

Oderint Dum Metuant
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-01-22 13:38:56 UTC
Aralieus wrote:
So yea, when is it gonna happen? I'm sure everyone appreciates all the shiny mobile structures but FIS in recons that don't suck would mean alot.


Roll look in features & ideas. Rebalancing is happening in tandum

No Worries
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#3 - 2014-01-22 14:22:48 UTC
Oh you mean like unnecessary unwantables(ESS, overheating e-war mods((TP lol)) etc etc? Gotcha...so question still stands. BLOPS, Recons, Pirate ships still need to be balanced. I'm sure I'm missing a few.

Oderint Dum Metuant
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#4 - 2014-01-22 15:15:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Noxisia Arkana
You are missing Logistics, and yes you can talk about ships and modules in this forum. It won't however get you anywhere.

I do believe that Devs read the feature and ideas section.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-01-22 15:31:10 UTC
crosses fingers that recons will be able to warp across systems in 1 go so they can "recon" ahead of the fleet instead of falling behind.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-01-22 16:15:42 UTC
Aralieus wrote:
Oh you mean like unnecessary unwantables(ESS, overheating e-war mods((TP lol)) etc etc? Gotcha...so question still stands. BLOPS, Recons, Pirate ships still need to be balanced. I'm sure I'm missing a few.



Seriously? Do you really think they've gone and said "hey look at all the ships we've rebalanced. I guess we are done for awhile"?

Maybe, just maybe, they are having lots of internal debate on the remaining ships. Maybe due to the highly specialized nature of the remaining Tech 2 ships for example, it is becoming complicated figuring out how to balance them

And maybe the team can also be thinking about more than one thing at a time, so while they are working on the complicated nature of say, Recon rebalance, they can ALSO work on easier stuff like updating overheating etc.


I swear I have never seen a group of bitchy whiners like those that play eve online forums.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2014-01-22 16:31:17 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Aralieus wrote:
Oh you mean like unnecessary unwantables(ESS, overheating e-war mods((TP lol)) etc etc? Gotcha...so question still stands. BLOPS, Recons, Pirate ships still need to be balanced. I'm sure I'm missing a few.



Seriously? Do you really think they've gone and said "hey look at all the ships we've rebalanced. I guess we are done for awhile"?

Maybe, just maybe, they are having lots of internal debate on the remaining ships. Maybe due to the highly specialized nature of the remaining Tech 2 ships for example, it is becoming complicated figuring out how to balance them

And maybe the team can also be thinking about more than one thing at a time, so while they are working on the complicated nature of say, Recon rebalance, they can ALSO work on easier stuff like updating overheating etc.


I swear I have never seen a group of bitchy whiners like those that play eve online forums.


This is basically the perfect response. I have nothing to add.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#8 - 2014-01-22 18:40:25 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Aralieus wrote:
Oh you mean like unnecessary unwantables(ESS, overheating e-war mods((TP lol)) etc etc? Gotcha...so question still stands. BLOPS, Recons, Pirate ships still need to be balanced. I'm sure I'm missing a few.






I swear I have never seen a group of bitchy whiners like those that play eve online forums.



Where did you see me whining? I'm curious as to when CCP is going to get around to balancing some of my favorite ships instead of dropping mobile structures in game. If my OP bothered you so much then why take the time out of your day to act bitchy about me 'bitching' as you so articulately put it.

Oderint Dum Metuant
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#9 - 2014-01-22 18:41:06 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Aralieus wrote:
Oh you mean like unnecessary unwantables(ESS, overheating e-war mods((TP lol)) etc etc? Gotcha...so question still stands. BLOPS, Recons, Pirate ships still need to be balanced. I'm sure I'm missing a few.



Seriously? Do you really think they've gone and said "hey look at all the ships we've rebalanced. I guess we are done for awhile"?

Maybe, just maybe, they are having lots of internal debate on the remaining ships. Maybe due to the highly specialized nature of the remaining Tech 2 ships for example, it is becoming complicated figuring out how to balance them

And maybe the team can also be thinking about more than one thing at a time, so while they are working on the complicated nature of say, Recon rebalance, they can ALSO work on easier stuff like updating overheating etc.


I swear I have never seen a group of bitchy whiners like those that play eve online forums.




I would also add that balancing the pirate ships is probably gonna take a while. A few of those ships are outright useless as they stand.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#10 - 2014-01-22 18:48:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Aralieus
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Aralieus wrote:
Oh you mean like unnecessary unwantables(ESS, overheating e-war mods((TP lol)) etc etc? Gotcha...so question still stands. BLOPS, Recons, Pirate ships still need to be balanced. I'm sure I'm missing a few.







I would also add that balancing the pirate ships is probably gonna take a while. A few of those ships are outright useless as they stand.



Indeed, especially poor little Cruor. Ashimmu could use a little love too (maybe more agility?) and with the new geddon changes it's stepping slightly on Bhaalgorns toes. Also :succubus:

Edit: What ship I really want some TLC on is Pilgrim. Would be interesting if they could make NOS work like it used to(can drain your cap completely dry) on Pilgrim and Curse.

Oderint Dum Metuant
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#11 - 2014-01-22 18:52:21 UTC
Aralieus wrote:
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Aralieus wrote:
Oh you mean like unnecessary unwantables(ESS, overheating e-war mods((TP lol)) etc etc? Gotcha...so question still stands. BLOPS, Recons, Pirate ships still need to be balanced. I'm sure I'm missing a few.







I would also add that balancing the pirate ships is probably gonna take a while. A few of those ships are outright useless as they stand.



Indeed, especially poor little Cruor. Ashimmu could use a little love too (maybe more agility?) and with the new geddon changes it's stepping slightly on Bhaalgorns toes. Also :succubus:

Edit: What ship I really want some TLC on is Pilgrim. Would be interesting if they could make NOS work like it used to(can drain your cap completely dry) on Pilgrim and Curse.



If it weren't for incursions and certain level 4's, maybe 10 Sansha ships would be undocked a day.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-01-22 19:02:02 UTC
Aralieus wrote:
Where did you see me whining? I'm curious as to when CCP is going to get around to balancing some of my favorite ships instead of dropping mobile structures in game. If my OP bothered you so much then why take the time out of your day to act bitchy about me 'bitching' as you so articulately put it.


Post #3 is a bit whiny, which is why I specifically quoted it and not your OP.

And you are still complaining, as if the devs are someone introducing new items (like deployables) INSTEAD of rebalancing.

Looking historically since this rebalance started the devs have been adding new feeatures WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, balancing ships. So it would seem plausible that they haven't stopped rebalancing ships just to give us new things.

But no, instead you are complaining (whining) that somehow these new deployables are the cause of all our rebalance delay woes.


Basically an I'll informed, baseless complaint = pretty much a whine.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#13 - 2014-01-22 19:22:05 UTC
we're going to get a recon rebalance. Cool your jets.

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Never forget.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#14 - 2014-01-22 19:27:56 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Aralieus wrote:
Where did you see me whining? I'm curious as to when CCP is going to get around to balancing some of my favorite ships instead of dropping mobile structures in game. If my OP bothered you so much then why take the time out of your day to act bitchy about me 'bitching' as you so articulately put it.


Post #3 is a bit whiny, which is why I specifically quoted it and not your OP.

And you are still complaining, as if the devs are someone introducing new items (like deployables) INSTEAD of rebalancing.

Looking historically since this rebalance started the devs have been adding new feeatures WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, balancing ships. So it would seem plausible that they haven't stopped rebalancing ships just to give us new things.

But no, instead you are complaining (whining) that somehow these new deployables are the cause of all our rebalance delay woes.


Basically an I'll informed, baseless complaint = pretty much a whine.



Once again your putting way more effort into this than I am...but please do continue. It's rather entertaining

Oderint Dum Metuant
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-01-22 19:39:51 UTC
Aralieus wrote:

Once again your putting way more effort into this than I am...but please do continue. It's rather entertaining


Ah yes the "I didn't really care even though I started this thread" deflection attempt.

Classic.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#16 - 2014-01-22 19:45:33 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Aralieus wrote:

Once again your putting way more effort into this than I am...but please do continue. It's rather entertaining


Ah yes the "I didn't really care even though I started this thread" deflection attempt.

Classic.


Rage on little man, rage on.

Oderint Dum Metuant