Player Features and Ideas Discussion

how about make it so when a ship explodes it is like hull ehp as aoe dmg in an area that is equal to sig radius x (mass/100) or something? that way people may not like to stay in each others pockets

edit. i fail at math but you get the idea.

It would be cool if there was a frig or destroyer only weapon against Capitals (sure bombs) but simpler and less specific.

I dont mind blobs but i want more small ships besides Stealth Bombers.

The problem is when BIG is only countered by BIGGER then BIGGEST always wins.

From a game design standpoint that is a broken game. Remember that this is a game, and gameplay is more important than realism.

This is the same reason they did the speed changes back in 2008, when FAST is only countered by FASTER then FASTEST always wins, and that just ends up with nobody ever flying anything else.

Think about it this way. Pretend with me that supercarriers were completely unbeatable unless you had a larger force of supercarriers (i know it isnt accurate, but we're pretending for the sake of the argument). If that were the case then whoever had the most supercarriers would always win and nobody would ever fly anything other than supercarriers right? See the problem?

It could be a titan only module!

And it could be fired through cynos too!

Wont help against 4k people in one grid. They will just have to orbit anchor(squad-wing target caller) that orbits another anchor at say 70 km.

The only way to fix blobbing is to make incentive to be in different systems (and different grids) at the same time while defending one. There already was a proposal to make sovereignty constellation-based. Another option is to replace "deal damage to capture" system with more conventional capture and hold where you just have to be present(imagine hacking concord database) with at least 1 ship around capture point to overtake it assuming there are no enemies around this point.

I personally think that it would be great in addition to current system to let corporation that controls ihub in the system repair it during reinforce timer by completing FW-like complexes that will randomly spawn in the same constellation. To the contrary any other corporation will be able to remove that restored armor/shield by capturing other plexes. This way players will have to organize into small groups and defend system by being present in different points over several hours allowing agressor to have some forced pvp. The main point is that even if one of the sides assembles blob it would be not the most efficient way to capture more plexes than the other side as blobs will have issues with mobility potentially capturing only one plex at a time while wolfpacks capture 4-5 at the same time. Another important balancing issue - the efficiency of defending the system in such way should depend on the amount of ihubs controlled by the corporation at the moment when ihub/station enters first reinforce.

Half of solution wont work in this case. IF not the lagging the bomber wings would have been causing more than enough aoe damage to counter any blob. But it DOES lag.

If ship deaths cause damage, you just made risk free ganking true. Hence why it will never work.

Taking the analogy of the slowcat as a phalanx i.e strong point attack (where the shield lines meet) and strong shared defence. You can do nothing about the strong point attack *but* it can only be applied oin one place every 4 seconds (or however long). This leaves the tank.

Attack and break the tank and you can start to roll up the fleet. How about a fleet of blops in support of the dreads? Jump in and target break a group of carriers to break the tank in a localized are, then concentrate groups of dread fire on multiple carriers. This would rely on being able to take out a few carriers at a time and the blops ships jumping out again before being minced (mjjd's could be handy here).

I'm sure the fleet folks can come up with something better, but the key is to use the equivalent of fast hard-hitting cavalry to punch holes in the shield wall (tank). Hit and run tactics were the death of phalanx groups on more than one occasion.

Failing that build a space trebuchet...

And if the Blops carry Target Spectrum Breakers? Sidle up to the carriers and get passive locks then uncloak and lock each other to cause mass targeting disruption before hitting the carriers? In effect it would be spider jamming I guess.

Just throwing ideas around mainly from interest and to learn as I haven't been in large scale fleet combat yet

I have to disagree with this mentality completely. Historically speaking, 1 well skilled individual could change the course of history.

That Eve fails to incorporate properly and adequately is one of the few real disappointments I have in this game.


A ninja assassinating the right target could bring a clan to its knees, for example.

Eve's only way to really do this right now is corporate sabotage, requiring roles etc.

I would REALLY like to see specialist ships that give 0 ducks about POS shields, for instance, and go straight for sabotage, like temporarily shutting down jump bridges, or freezing a POS's processes, or heck, even jamming a Titan's Jump portal.

It would be Hella crazy to try and balance, I get it, but the mentality that the only way to fight a blob is with a blob is wrong.


EDIT: Or Locking a player in station for x amount of time.