EVE New Citizens Q&A

You two teaming up to do this sounds like a really good plan.

For reference, when I did this a couple months ago, I did it in a destroyer and found (experimentally, through failure :) that you need at least 150 DPS to get past his tank. That should be no problem for two of you but can be hard for a single low SP player
to fit without rig skills and/or faction ammo. Faction ammo is a really good plan for you for this mission actually but might seem expensive to you. I have some caldari faction missiles and rockets lying around, shoot me a message in-game if you have too much trouble teamed up.

Thanks :) When they opportunity arises we'll see how it goes. In a sense my low SP in offensive skills makes this mission tough. I have been pushing my Frigate to level V the past week so I don't have the time to skill up my Missiles.

My DPS can get past 50% of the tank in about 7-8 mins but the 10s reloading time for my Missiles wasted all the effort. By the time I reloaded, the tank is back up to almost full. I'll skill up DPS after Frigate V. And thank you very much for your offer. If we still can't complete it then we'll call for help. Haha

Makes you wonder why your ship doesn't have an alarm claxon that sounds either when you are targeted or when you are shot at. It would seem to be the sort of no-brainer device that every ship would be fitted with as standard..... But nope, you have to keep your eyes peeled for that little flashing yellow box.....

Just imagine how many lives would be saved if only these mega-high tech space ships came equipped with a bell :)

Yeah I'm thinking more of the kind of thing you'd see on Star Trek or Babylon 5, a really loud "AROOGHA....... AROOGAH!!!" claxon the lights dim to red and someone screams out "GENERAL QUARTERS!" in a panicky kind of voice. That's the kind of alarm I'd personally want if I were about to be shot at and die....

Not a noise that sounds like someone stepping on a mouse's tail - as heard from a great distance.....

There is some good advice already, but I feel like adding my 2c.

If you read the forums extensively, the general consensus is you do level 1 security missions in a Destroyer, level 2's in a Cruiser, level 3's in a Battlecruiser and level 4's in a Battleship.

This is not bad advice, however it is aimed at grinding ISK. The above is for people that are trying to maximize ISK and minimize RISK. So they fly into a mission, sit there without effort, blast the bad guys, fly back for the reward and repeat ad nauseum. I won't speak for others, but this kind of "GRINDING" is boring. I would quit PVE or EvE outright if all I did was follow the conventional wisdom in these forums. I also feel it's worth mentioning that you will gain faction standing to reach level 4 missions LONG before you are able to fly a battleship well (I'm talking about core skills).

Before I started to read these forums, I was doing level 3 security missions with a Destroyer (Gallente Catalyst, with a salvager on one of the turrets), so 7 railguns total using only antimatter (I didn't bother looking into the other ammo types). I did about half a dozen level 3's without issue, until I ran into one mission that obliterated me before I knew I was in trouble. That is when I decided to upgrade to Cruisers (Thorax).

When I made the switch, I was just barely able to survive the level 3 missions that would have blapped my Destroyer. Cruisers use MEDIUM guns, so when you move up to Cruiser, you have to retrain to improve your DPS. I also had to learn that those medium guns didn't track well at very close range, so I learnt a whole new strategy. Also, I had level 4 Destroyer and the drop to level 1 Cruiser meant my Cruiser DPS wasn't much better than my Destroyer. In hindsight, there was a lot I could have done to improve my Destroyer DPS as well as the range I engaged at. I could probably have finished that level 3 in my Destroyer simply by switching ammo types (more range) since it was the range of the Cruiser that allowed me to survive those missions.

Today, with about 4M SP, level 3's are easy in my Cruiser. I have progressed to doing level 4's in my Thorax, although it is hard. But that is what I find FUN. Yeah it takes way more time than a battleship would take, but again... hard, challenging, fun!

All I'm saying, is a lot of the advice given is provided by people with decent SP who have forgotten what it's like to be a new player. Someone saying they did the BSS mission "again" and did it solo with a cruiser and it was much easier has lost sight of the fact that a lot of the core skills, as well as cruiser skills have been trained up since "the first time". I'm sure you're not interested in waiting a week or two to train cruisers and medium weapons (whatever you use) to be able to go back and try for yourself.

And for my last bit of advice, let me say that I killed Dagan solo using a Catalyst (Destroyer) equipped with 7 railguns + antimatter right out of the tutorial missions. I did it, and did not know I was "supposed to have to rely on a friend". I chose the Gallente version of the ending (if that makes a difference). Maybe the difference between you and I is my guns were hitting his weak resists? Oh, and I also got real close and orbited at 500m. Before doing that, I was getting hit and running out of capacitor before I could finish him off. At 500m, you're under his guns and he can't hit you, meaning you can turn everything but your guns off and grind him down.

So, check your damage type vs. his resists, orbit him real close and kill him on your own. Or make a friend to help you out, that is more in the spirit of EvE after all and kind of the point of him being so hard in the first place.

You must not have experienced the "structure" alarm recently. I nearly wet my pants once when I forgot I had a youtube video playing and it went off in the video. Go lose an ibis in low sec real quick

I don't think I have heard it, for long enough that I cant remember anyway. I'll have to test it out :)

I think that having a suitably strident alarm when you get to structure is a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has already bolted though. I mean by the time you're at structure, you're pretty much dead anyway or close enough that a noticeable alarm isn't really going to tell you anything you don't already know.

I'd rather have a decently loud alarm Klaxon scream the instant I'm locked so that I actually have time to do stuff that avoids me ever getting to structure. Quite often I miss the distant - mouse - squeak and only notice that I'm locked when I see the yellow box, or even worse when I'm already under fire....

Try running L3s or even L4s in an assault frigate sometime, you sound like someone that would enjoy it. (AFs cannot kill one of the rats in The Mordrus Headhunters 4, however).

I believe you can run most L3s in an interceptor too, which can be interesting to do in hostile areas of non-sovereign nullsec, especially if you get sent into sovereign nullsec with some of the missions.... Folks will assume you are AFK cloaking and panic.

A Comerant? Honey, there's people out here who have Comerants fall out of their socks when they take their shoes off at the end of the day. I'm sure someone can hook you up with a new one... maybe even give you a few pointers while they're at it.

Despite what you may have heard, EvE isn't entirely sociopathic chin-droolers. There's a few philantropists out there, too. Not many, but a few. You just have to pick through the coal to find the diamonds.

Purifier and Vengeance are the two biggest reasons that Amarr Frigate V might be my next training goal after I finish training for CovOps. Gallente to III first though.

Basically, I love Frigates.