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HED protest

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Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#1 - 2014-01-22 02:12:34 UTC
I may have missed it but has there been a discussion about a HED protest? I was very dissapointed with the experience and what I *perceive* to be a general lack of prioritzed work towards a better sov experience.

I would like to voice my displeasure in a fairly constructive way. When/how is the protest?
Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2014-01-22 02:14:14 UTC
Here are the details.

"Shiny.  Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb

Xornicon Altair
Black Watch Syndicate
#3 - 2014-01-22 02:15:42 UTC
I'd say HED was a success. If you know a better way to put 3600 players into the same system without TiDi, then, please, suggest it. The fact that CCP's hardware is capable of such a feat at all is amazing. There is no reason to protest this.

Now, if you have a specific complaint, perhaps you should talk to your favorite CSM rep and see if they can help you resolve it.

This is the song....

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-01-22 02:24:26 UTC
Xornicon Altair wrote:
I'd say HED was a success. If you know a better way to put 3600 players into the same system without TiDi, then, please, suggest it. The fact that CCP's hardware is capable of such a feat at all is amazing. There is no reason to protest this.

Now, if you have a specific complaint, perhaps you should talk to your favorite CSM rep and see if they can help you resolve it.

It's not tidi that people are complaining about.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#5 - 2014-01-22 02:27:16 UTC
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Here are the details.


I don't think unsubcribing and walking away without voicing what I didn't like is helpful. My day job is with a technology company. When we lose customers but don't know why they dropped us, we're left not knowing what to improve. I would like to extend that courtesy to Eve and truth be told I don't *want* to unsub but I want to be heard.
Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#6 - 2014-01-22 02:28:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Arboledaw
Xornicon Altair wrote:
I'd say HED was a success. If you know a better way to put 3600 players into the same system without TiDi, then, please, suggest it. The fact that CCP's hardware is capable of such a feat at all is amazing. There is no reason to protest this.

Now, if you have a specific complaint, perhaps you should talk to your favorite CSM rep and see if they can help you resolve it.


Quick question and then I'll address the other parts of your post - were you there?
Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-01-22 02:37:50 UTC
Arboledaw wrote:
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Here are the details.


I don't think unsubcribing and walking away without voicing what I didn't like is helpful. My day job is with a technology company. When we lose customers but don't know why they dropped us, we're left not knowing what to improve. I would like to extend that courtesy to Eve and truth be told I don't *want* to unsub but I want to be heard.

Im pretty certain that when you unsub it asks you why you are leaving. They made it really easy for you if you wanted to do it properly.

"Shiny.  Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb

Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#8 - 2014-01-22 03:08:01 UTC
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Arboledaw wrote:
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Here are the details.


I don't think unsubcribing and walking away without voicing what I didn't like is helpful. My day job is with a technology company. When we lose customers but don't know why they dropped us, we're left not knowing what to improve. I would like to extend that courtesy to Eve and truth be told I don't *want* to unsub but I want to be heard.

Im pretty certain that when you unsub it asks you why you are leaving. They made it really easy for you if you wanted to do it properly.


That's a good point. But going back to my day job comparison:

1 - Customer lost with no communicated reason. Sucks.

2 - Customer voices concerns and drops us. We address the concerns but that customer and maybe others are already gone. At least we know why.

3 - Customers voice concerns, we address concerns and customer is happy. Plus other customers benefit from the improved product. Win, win!

Pulling this back to Eve I am the customer and I'm hoping for scenario 3!

Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#9 - 2014-01-22 03:11:19 UTC
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Arboledaw wrote:
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Here are the details.


I don't think unsubcribing and walking away without voicing what I didn't like is helpful. My day job is with a technology company. When we lose customers but don't know why they dropped us, we're left not knowing what to improve. I would like to extend that courtesy to Eve and truth be told I don't *want* to unsub but I want to be heard.

Im pretty certain that when you unsub it asks you why you are leaving. They made it really easy for you if you wanted to do it properly.


One other thought - I think I will delete *some* of my accounts and cite HED/sov as reason. So your suggestion is helpful in that regard.
Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2014-01-22 03:12:55 UTC
Address what concern though? That your fleet intentionally did something stupid?

"Shiny.  Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb

Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#11 - 2014-01-22 03:21:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Arboledaw
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Address what concern though? That your fleet intentionally did something stupid?


No - that we (all sides involved) couldn't engage in an epic battle with playable conditions. Warp tunnel upwards of 2 hours, somehow appearing on field and dying *long* before the grid even loadd from the pilot's perspective,etc. I don't mind the first people on the grid having some natural tactical advantage but the game shouldn't be unplayable for the latecomers.

I'm not butthurt that Goons lost. I'm butthurt that my 11 hours that day entailed modules not working, various mechanics not working, etc. That just sucks and was the anti-thesis of what I thought would be a fun battle, win or lose.

I want to experience epic battles in playable conditions and want to feel that CCP cares about what I want in this regard and is working towards it. My complaint is that I get a "we don't care vibe from CCP."
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-01-22 03:25:45 UTC
kick enli
Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#13 - 2014-01-22 03:32:21 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
kick enli


Will that

1 - Make largescale battles playable?
2 - Alter the dynamics of sov warfare to make it more enjoyable?

If so, I wholeheartedly support kicking ENL-I for the benefit of the game wise sir!
Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2014-01-22 03:35:00 UTC
Arboledaw wrote:
My complaint is that I get a "we don't care vibe from CCP."


What?

Are you a new player or something?

"Shiny.  Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-01-22 03:57:19 UTC
Arboledaw wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
kick enli


Will that

1 - Make largescale battles playable?
2 - Alter the dynamics of sov warfare to make it more enjoyable?

If so, I wholeheartedly support kicking ENL-I for the benefit of the game wise sir!


It will do neither of these things, but it would improve my eve-o posting experience greatly, which is the heart of this game anyway.
Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#16 - 2014-01-22 04:02:25 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Arboledaw wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
kick enli


Will that

1 - Make largescale battles playable?
2 - Alter the dynamics of sov warfare to make it more enjoyable?

If so, I wholeheartedly support kicking ENL-I for the benefit of the game wise sir!


It will do neither of these things, but it would improve my eve-o posting experience greatly, which is the heart of this game anyway.


ENLI posting is bad, no disagreement there :)
Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#17 - 2014-01-22 04:03:16 UTC
Well, if anyone hears of an organized protest let me know. Thx all.
Ivan Krividus
Cold Lazarus Inc
The-Expanse
#18 - 2014-01-22 04:05:17 UTC
I really dont know why stupid people ***** over the servers that CCP has. If they didnt have thousands of star systems, then yeah the TiDi could support around 100000+ players in a system. Its not like CCP can fix it, so offering complaints is just going to get you made fun of.
Arboledaw
Sakura Holdings
#19 - 2014-01-22 04:12:30 UTC
Ivan Krividus wrote:
I really dont know why stupid people ***** over the servers that CCP has. If they didnt have thousands of star systems, then yeah the TiDi could support around 100000+ players in a system. Its not like CCP can fix it, so offering complaints is just going to get you made fun of.


Are you a software developer? If not, there's more to this than you may understand. Massive(er) epic fights in single systems can be done with sufficient dev effort on CCP's part.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#20 - 2014-01-22 04:13:18 UTC
Why do I get the impression that nullsec blobbers have a rather inflated sense of their playstyle, role, and stature in this game?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

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