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pos and war declaration

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yvonne mcgruder
red dwarf II
#1 - 2014-01-21 09:00:07 UTC
i was recently wardecced and attacked.... got a pos in 07 by myself... how is it fair that anyone can attack a pos when they see
it is a one man pos? rules should exclude by 50%...that means, if you are a corp with one, a corp with max 2 could attack you...

pissed and retracting from game...
yvonne mcgruder
red dwarf II
#2 - 2014-01-21 09:07:45 UTC
not that good with %, but you know what i mean....
Richard Bashir
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-01-21 09:25:42 UTC
Should have considered that when you deployed your POS in the first place.

Never thought I would ever say this but... Can I have your stuff?
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-01-21 10:50:32 UTC
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
i was recently wardecced and attacked.... got a pos in 07 by myself... how is it fair that anyone can attack a pos when they see
it is a one man pos? rules should exclude by 50%...that means, if you are a corp with one, a corp with max 2 could attack you...

pissed and retracting from game...


This is Eve and there are wardecs. Just take the POS down or remove everything from it.

If you quit can I have your stuff... PLEASE!
yvonne mcgruder
red dwarf II
#5 - 2014-01-21 11:08:05 UTC
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
i was recently wardecced and attacked.... got a pos in 07 by myself... how is it fair that anyone can attack a pos when they see
it is a one man pos? rules should exclude by 50%...that means, if you are a corp with one, a corp with max 2 could attack you...

pissed and retracting from game...

its not just, when youre all alone fighting dirtbags do you turn into one? according to game you are....well i wont, i rather quit...
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#6 - 2014-01-21 11:08:38 UTC
Confirming I should be able to kick all the members of my corp so that 2 attackers have to deal with a large deathstar POS that will be refit to 137m EHP if they can get the guns down.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-01-21 11:14:11 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
Deleted.
yvonne mcgruder
red dwarf II
#8 - 2014-01-21 11:16:38 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Deleted.

admitting deffeat against dirtbags? well...is that an option?
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-01-21 11:18:37 UTC
You can always pick up all the labs and production modules, and setup heavy defense. Depending on the size of the tower most people will ignore a fully defended high sec pos, it really is a lot of work killing a pos without cap support.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#10 - 2014-01-21 11:40:07 UTC
Ok, first of all why is this in Missions and Complexes?

O_o

So I'm not sure what the problem is, you are in a player corporation meaning you can be war decced, have you tried dropping to an NPC corp? How about asking for help from mercenaries?

I honestly hope you didn't expect to play a multiplayer game about blowing up spaceships and not interact with anyone!?
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#11 - 2014-01-21 14:17:10 UTC
War Dec mechanics are interesting. That is the annoying/lovely thing about EvE once you have something of real value it can be taken away by someone elses version of gameplay.

If you can afford a POS (it should be making you big money, so you should reasonably be able to afford another one) and have the standings - sneak your stuff out and let them have your tower. Wait for the war dec shinanigens to end and set up shop where-ever these guys don't hang out.

Also, for the love of god do not try to post this thread in C&P once they smell blood they circle like sharks.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#12 - 2014-01-21 15:37:37 UTC
you have 24 hours to:

Remove the pos
Remove all valuables from the pos
Get friends
Pay off your attackers
Online a crap ton of shield resistance modules or ECM batteries
Anchor an unlimited number of defensive mods. Once they attack you can online the mods that best counter their attacking fleet, and if you can force them to incap the mods first, you can continue anchoring and onlining mods forever. You do have pos-gunner skills right?

Having a hisec pos is a privilege. Why should you expect to keep one without the ability or knowledge to defend it?

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

Maxor Swift
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-01-21 16:39:32 UTC
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
i was recently wardecced and attacked.... got a pos in 07 by myself... how is it fair that anyone can attack a pos when they see
it is a one man pos? rules should exclude by 50%...that means, if you are a corp with one, a corp with max 2 could attack you...

pissed and retracting from game...

its not just, when youre all alone fighting dirtbags do you turn into one? according to game you are....well i wont, i rather quit...


i feel your pain i also am a solo player and it can be a harsh universe at times. if you do quit good luck out there.

"What you talking about willis"

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-01-21 17:26:05 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Deleted.

admitting deffeat against dirtbags? well...is that an option?


It's not "admitting defeat". It's being smart. Eve is a PVP game and the biggest part of PVP is picking fights you can win.

This is no different than RL. If you're in a bar and three guys that are twice your size try to get you to fight are you going to take the bait or walk away?

Now if that was in Eve you would walk away then come back with ten buddies. It's how the game works.

Just like in RL don't let your pride overpower your brain. Are you afraid the WT's will call you names in local chat?
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-01-21 17:29:50 UTC
Maxor Swift wrote:
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
i was recently wardecced and attacked.... got a pos in 07 by myself... how is it fair that anyone can attack a pos when they see
it is a one man pos? rules should exclude by 50%...that means, if you are a corp with one, a corp with max 2 could attack you...

pissed and retracting from game...

its not just, when youre all alone fighting dirtbags do you turn into one? according to game you are....well i wont, i rather quit...


i feel your pain i also am a solo player and it can be a harsh universe at times. if you do quit good luck out there.


So many people try to play Eve as a solo game and so many quit. If you can make in game friends or play with RL friends the game is so much more enjoyable
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-01-22 02:45:53 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Maxor Swift wrote:
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
i was recently wardecced and attacked.... got a pos in 07 by myself... how is it fair that anyone can attack a pos when they see
it is a one man pos? rules should exclude by 50%...that means, if you are a corp with one, a corp with max 2 could attack you...

pissed and retracting from game...

its not just, when youre all alone fighting dirtbags do you turn into one? according to game you are....well i wont, i rather quit...


i feel your pain i also am a solo player and it can be a harsh universe at times. if you do quit good luck out there.


So many people try to play Eve as a solo game and so many quit. If you can make in game friends or play with RL friends the game is so much more enjoyable

I mostly play this game solo, have done so for well over 5 years. I've also done some Fleet action as well.

I completely understand the situation and like Maxor Swift, I also sympathize with the OP. I've seen this happen quite a bit in the past to other players who usually end up leaving this game afterwards. The player corps who do these WD's are nothing more than Griefers taking advantage of an unbalanced game mechanic.

Straight


DMC
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#17 - 2014-01-22 03:39:28 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
The player corps who do these WD's are nothing more than Griefers taking advantage of an unbalanced game mechanic.


They're griefers because they blew up his pos? Come on now. Blink

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-01-22 03:55:38 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
The player corps who do these WD's are nothing more than Griefers taking advantage of an unbalanced game mechanic.


Considering the work involved in destroying a pos without using dreads i think it's very balanced, if you have a large tower with ewar and guns it's going to take more then a handful of griefers to take it down.

There is a lot you can do to protect your pos, if you know what you are doing, but i'm most cases people prefer to act helpless and cry griefer in hopes of CCP intervening.

I really don't have much compassion for this type of player, he had two options;

a) he could have asked for advice on protecting the pos.
b) decide nothing can be done, and quit the game.

he decide b would be the best course of action, he didn't even for one second stop to think that this is something that happens on a daily basis, and most people are able to deal with the problem. He deserves to lose the pos, he is clearly not willing to do what it takes to defend it.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-01-22 06:26:47 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Maxor Swift wrote:
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
yvonne mcgruder wrote:
i was recently wardecced and attacked.... got a pos in 07 by myself... how is it fair that anyone can attack a pos when they see
it is a one man pos? rules should exclude by 50%...that means, if you are a corp with one, a corp with max 2 could attack you...

pissed and retracting from game...

its not just, when youre all alone fighting dirtbags do you turn into one? according to game you are....well i wont, i rather quit...


i feel your pain i also am a solo player and it can be a harsh universe at times. if you do quit good luck out there.


So many people try to play Eve as a solo game and so many quit. If you can make in game friends or play with RL friends the game is so much more enjoyable

I mostly play this game solo, have done so for well over 5 years. I've also done some Fleet action as well.

I completely understand the situation and like Maxor Swift, I also sympathize with the OP. I've seen this happen quite a bit in the past to other players who usually end up leaving this game afterwards. The player corps who do these WD's are nothing more than Griefers taking advantage of an unbalanced game mechanic.

Straight


DMC


I'll agree with wardecs being a PITA but I don't see them as unbalanced. I would like to see station games removed from Eve but that's a whole new thread. I've been on the receiving end of wardecs a whole lot more than on the giving end. You can avoid being a target but just most chose not to do so. Watch local, use a scout, use locator agents to find your WT's etc.

I'm sorry but if you choose to sit AFK in a belt mining knowing there's a war I have no sympathy for you, If you choose to run missions and not even bother to watch local again no sympathy. Jita running a hauler well you get the idea. Come on guys be a hard target. They extend the wars that give them easy kills.

Also this is why you have corp mates to scout nearby systems for threats. If you're solo stay in an NPC corp. This makes you immune from wardecs.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you can completely take down a POS within the 24 hour wardec start time? I'm really asking because I don't know for sure. If so why wouldn't you take it down??
Dilligafmofo
3WAYFOUNDATIONS
New Miner's Union
#20 - 2014-01-23 08:38:33 UTC
To place the pos and earn from it, one must be in a player made corp. Being in a player made corp means you are allowed to be war decced.

I understand your frustration to some degree, but if, as you have done, you wish to receive all the benefits that come from being in a one man corp or any player made corp ( no taxes, construction and use of a pos etc) You must be prepared for the downsides that come with such things.

I will also add a well used phrase from Eve. If you cannot defend that which you own, you do not deserve to keep it. It is harsh but very true. Some will see your isk fawcet as a slap in the face to their gameplay style and in turn will desire to remove you from it or it from you. This is Eve. It is designed to be like this.

Fight for your stuff or find another way to make your isk, please don't bleat about how the game is wrong or the actions of your wardeccers is incorrect, just because it has impacted on your happy little bubble.

Eve reflects parts of life in many respects. If you make yourself a target, some douchebag will make you their target ( usually some pillock trying to make up for their own shortfalls, as is the case with most hisec greifers) Kicking a bully very hard in the nuts or dropping the head on the bridge of their nose can result in you getting a battering, but next time, they will look for a softer target.

Toughen up and keep playing.
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