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Where did the permanent gatecamps go?

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Miwiwo'upapi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-21 19:21:20 UTC
Hi there,

Returning player here. When I left eve a year ago, there were certain systems that were permanently camped by pirates, e.g. Rancer. Those were also the systems which showed up in dotlans 'most kills' per system list.

Not anymore.

Did some mechanic change and are the systems that guaranteed pew, gone? Or are there still lowsec systems which mean certain removal of your ship for haulers/unprepared travelers?

Cheers,

Miwi.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-01-21 19:22:28 UTC
EVE is dying

Dodixie > Hek
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#3 - 2014-01-21 19:22:35 UTC
Miwiwo'upapi wrote:
unprepared travelers


These became virtually extinct

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-01-21 19:26:48 UTC
If you need to move a ship, you bypass the camps in a carrier.
If you need to move an item, you bypass the camps in a jump freighter.
If you need to move yourself, you use an uncatchable ship.

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#5 - 2014-01-21 19:30:36 UTC
They realized that there are other things to do in EVE.. you know,... something more fun than camping 23/7

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#6 - 2014-01-21 19:31:29 UTC
Fix Lag wrote:
If you need to move yourself, you use an uncatchable ship.


Like a 1.9 second align-time double istabbed Malediction!
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#7 - 2014-01-21 19:31:55 UTC
Fix Lag wrote:
If you need to move a ship, you bypass the camps in a carrier.
If you need to move an item, you bypass the camps in a jump freighter.
If you need to move yourself, you use an uncatchable ship.


If you are poor like me, use a Blockade Runner


I hear they are good for, like, running past blockades.

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-01-21 19:34:25 UTC
Billy McCandless wrote:
Fix Lag wrote:
If you need to move a ship, you bypass the camps in a carrier.
If you need to move an item, you bypass the camps in a jump freighter.
If you need to move yourself, you use an uncatchable ship.

If you are poor like me, use a Blockade Runner


I hear they are good for, like, running past blockades.

>Poor
>Blockade runner

Dodixie > Hek
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#9 - 2014-01-21 19:36:21 UTC
People know which systems used to be death traps and basically just avoid them now.

Also transport of goods got a little too easy with the whole carrier/jump freighter bypass everything move.

Then again in the hayday those camps were basically death.

Gatecamps are around and alive, they just generally are not in static systems anymore (there more dynamic and more mobile).

Yaay!!!!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2014-01-21 19:37:49 UTC
Gate Perma-camping was deemed too low-skill and not-pvp, so the gate perma-campers all went to highsec to engage in other low-skill not-pvp activites like freighter and miner ganking, undock asshattery and general griefing via MTUs in an attempt to prove how low-skill and fail we really are.



Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#11 - 2014-01-21 19:41:51 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
People know which systems used to be death traps and basically just avoid them now.

Also transport of goods got a little too easy with the whole carrier/jump freighter bypass everything move.

Then again in the hayday those camps were basically death.

Gatecamps are around and alive, they just generally are not in static systems anymore (there more dynamic and more mobile).


Yep got caught in high sec by an alliance who declared on mine....so they are even in high sec!
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#12 - 2014-01-21 19:46:52 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Billy McCandless wrote:
Fix Lag wrote:
If you need to move a ship, you bypass the camps in a carrier.
If you need to move an item, you bypass the camps in a jump freighter.
If you need to move yourself, you use an uncatchable ship.

If you are poor like me, use a Blockade Runner


I hear they are good for, like, running past blockades.

>Poor
>Blockade runner



I dont knwo what you are saying

Unless you are agreeing and then ok

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-01-21 19:47:31 UTC
Billy McCandless wrote:
Fix Lag wrote:
If you need to move a ship, you bypass the camps in a carrier.
If you need to move an item, you bypass the camps in a jump freighter.
If you need to move yourself, you use an uncatchable ship.


If you are poor like me, use a Blockade Runner


I hear they are good for, like, running past blockades.



Not AlwaysTwisted

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#14 - 2014-01-21 19:51:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Billy McCandless
Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:

Not AlwaysTwisted


Yes always

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Ueberlisk
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#15 - 2014-01-22 00:53:23 UTC
all the gate campers just realised they can just go to high-sec and suicide gank all the valuable targets. less time required, bigger kills and basically no risk.
Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2014-01-22 00:57:39 UTC
Ueberlisk wrote:
all the gate campers just realised they can just go to high-sec and suicide gank all the valuable targets. less time required, bigger kills and basically no risk.

this

"Shiny.  Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#17 - 2014-01-22 01:01:09 UTC
Miwiwo'upapi wrote:
Hi there,

Returning player here. When I left eve a year ago, there were certain systems that were permanently camped by pirates, e.g. Rancer. Those were also the systems which showed up in dotlans 'most kills' per system list.

Not anymore.

Did some mechanic change and are the systems that guaranteed pew, gone? Or are there still lowsec systems which mean certain removal of your ship for haulers/unprepared travelers?

Cheers,

Miwi.


The recent interceptor changes certainly haven't helped things(interceptors are immune to warp bubbles and align/warp faster than you can scram them).

Other than that, more players can fly jump freighters and carriers, so easier to bypass gate camps.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#18 - 2014-01-22 01:24:32 UTC
Fix Lag wrote:
If you need to move a ship, you bypass the camps in a carrier.
If you need to move an item, you bypass the camps in a jump freighter.
If you need to move yourself, you use an uncatchable ship.



That'll do it.


One point that is made on these forums that I agree with, if you hang out on certain gates and kill everything that moves, eventually there will be nothing moving.


But I must also wonder if FW in lowsec has much influence on this: more chance of a fleet happening by and such.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
polly papercut
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-01-22 10:04:45 UTC
Miwiwo'upapi wrote:

haulers/unprepared travelers?


Because killing haulers and unprepared travelers isn't real pvp.
And people just went to hi sec ganks or FW ..

Seems as if you are going to need to find a new play style.
Pretty sure Ceptor roams will be right up your ally.

risk averse "pvpers" much like the ones who used to pray on the gate camps waiting for haulers
have moved to this. You can fly around anywhere you want and pick your targets IE haulers or basically anything that can't / won't fight back. And you can run away from pretty much anything.
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-01-22 10:47:08 UTC
Where did the permanent gatecamps go?
They ran out of Velveeta to keep them sustained while waiting for that one ship a week to come through.
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