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Gianni L'amour
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-01-20 18:15:48 UTC

Greetings to you fellow citizens. as the topic says i'm a noob and what i'm exactly looking for is not a corp but fair and sincere individuals who are willing to teach me about pvp (not camping) and electronic warfare (such as escaping target lock etc.). I'm already in trouble with local pirates in Hagilur and get ganked regularly at Bei gate. I don't want to be mistaken as a whining player or telling on them as i am doing what you call ninja looting with a probe at Bei system. I also do inventions and manufacturing on Minmatar frigates at Lasleinur and willing to share them with whom takes the role of a teacher when i start manufacturing them. Main reason i don't want to join a corp is that i'm not very social interactionist and not concerned about in game or out of the game politics, nations, countries and religions.(don't like typing too much and minimize the chat window mostly) and prefer to play solo and learn everything the hard way and when i'm ready i'll move on to 0.0 sec. Not sure if i sound arrogant for a noob but thank you for listening. Waiting for your in game mails. Have a wonderful day/night :)
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-01-20 18:18:21 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Join this channel: Agony public

Watch their MotD / forum for next BASIC class.
Join their next BASIC class. Will answer the questions listened by theory behind it aswel as practical lessons about it.

Also, if you want to stay solo...nothing is keeping you from that.
And go to null when ever you think you should, dont fall for the I need 'x' skills or 'y' skillpoints.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#3 - 2014-01-20 18:22:47 UTC
If you dont want to join a corp but looking for individuals that can help answer questions and give you advice i would suggest contacting the people that keep blowing you up.
I know it sounds odd but i am actually serious Big smile

People tend to think that anyone who blows them up are "bad" but quite often you will find that the people that just turned your ship into scrap metal are more then willing to offer advice and tips if the person that got blown up stays polite, makes it clear that they are not looking to whine or rage at them, and makes it clear they are just a new player looking for advice.

From there you might end up getting invited to their public channels where you can meet more people that are willing to help you with advice and similar, and from there you get to know more people and soon you have a pretty decent network of players and will have a "go to person" for most subjects you might be interested in.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#4 - 2014-01-20 18:34:56 UTC
Few tips:
- add those who ganked you already to your contacts with orange or red standings and "Add to watch list" checkbox checked - you will see if they are online when you log in and if they log in later little popup will notify you about that
- use map statistics to see if systems you want to jump to have any ships / pods exploded in last hour - if yes and your "friends" are online you probably shouldn't jump
- you can fit stabs to avoid being pointed at gate and refit at station or mobile depot structure you can carry in your cargo. stabs are pretty severe on your fittings and ship systems but they can help you during those precious seconds when gate cloak drops and you are aligning to your destination

Anyway, you should follow J'Poll advice and try Agony class. Even if you won't understand all that is said you can get some pointers what type in google to get more explanations and maybe you will get to know few people who can help you further.

Being solo is not a bad thing, I am mostly solo even though I am always in some nonNPC corp. I talk when I feel like it and do whatever I want. If somebody has a problem with it that is his problem not mine.

Good luck on your endeavors and have fun :)

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Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#5 - 2014-01-21 05:39:46 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
If you dont want to join a corp but looking for individuals that can help answer questions and give you advice i would suggest contacting the people that keep blowing you up.
I know it sounds odd but i am actually serious Big smile


This is the best advice ever, OP.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#6 - 2014-01-21 06:19:38 UTC
Miriya Zakalwe wrote:
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
If you dont want to join a corp but looking for individuals that can help answer questions and give you advice i would suggest contacting the people that keep blowing you up.
I know it sounds odd but i am actually serious Big smile


This is the best advice ever, OP.


Confirming this.


Also OP: Have some respect for yourself. You are a newb, not a noob.

Newb = someone new to the game
Noob = someone who makes the mistakes of a newbie repeatedly but refuses to learn from them.


As for your questions about escaping lock:

- Are you losing your ship before you realise what's happening? In that case you may want to look into flying ships with a smaller signature radius, which will make your foes take longer to acquire a lock on you. Smaller ships have smaller sigrads, and shield tanked ships and/or ships with active microwarpdrives have significantly larger sigrads. Be aware however, that it is possible for an organised gang to counter this by setting up an "Instalock Camp" which is capable of locking every ship in the game in one second.

- Are you getting locked, surviving a while, but losing your ship before you can escape? In that case, ECM may be effective if your target(s) are close to you, and Sensor Dampening (with a targetting range script) may be effective if you are far from the person stopping you warping away.

- Are you getting locked and your ship is being EWAR-locked to the point that you cannot target anything, then you are slowly shot to pieces? In that case, depending upon the EWAR being used against you, Sensor Booster modules and/or ECCM modules may assist you. However, these will only help you shoot back, they won't help you escape.


As for Hagilur: The system is dangerous. Always. I do not fly into it solo unless I am piloting a shuttle, frigate or interceptor. There are back ways into Thelan, Rorsins and the other systems around there that are safer and it's worth taking the extra jumps to avoid Hagilur.

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Gianni L'amour
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-01-21 09:50:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Gianni L'amour
Thank you for the tips so far :) well mostly i get ganked when i come out of gate from Bei to Hagilur and find it pointless to counter them in a probe and log off when cloaked but even then i found myself in a pod when i logged back anyway of course it's ridiculous to speak of fair pvp :) i want ECM training in order to escape from angry mission runners :) should i use ECM or ECCM to avoid getting targeted? i was using multispectrum target jammer and sensor backup arrays on low slots. as for self respect pardon me for not knowing the slight difference between your terms in your terminology but i'll get used to it :)
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-01-21 10:10:13 UTC
Gianni L'amour wrote:
Thank you for the tips so far :) well mostly i get ganked when i come out of gate from Bei to Hagilur and find it pointless to counter them in a probe and log off when cloaked but even then i found myself in a pod when i logged back anyway of course it's ridiculous to speak of fair pvp :) i want ECM training in order to escape from angry mission runners :) should i use ECM or ECCM to avoid getting targeted? i was using multispectrum target jammer and sensor backup arrays on low slots. as for self respect pardon me for not knowing the slight difference between your terms in your terminology but i'll get used to it :)


Logging of doesnt immediately remove you from space and thus never is a good option.

ECM. ECCM is to counteract ECM.

ECM = Electronic Counter-Measures (aka jamming target's targeting computers).
ECCM = Electronic Counter Counter-Measures (aka trying to prevent your target from jamming your targeting computer).

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Gianni L'amour
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-01-21 12:25:58 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Gianni L'amour wrote:
Thank you for the tips so far :) well mostly i get ganked when i come out of gate from Bei to Hagilur and find it pointless to counter them in a probe and log off when cloaked but even then i found myself in a pod when i logged back anyway of course it's ridiculous to speak of fair pvp :) i want ECM training in order to escape from angry mission runners :) should i use ECM or ECCM to avoid getting targeted? i was using multispectrum target jammer and sensor backup arrays on low slots. as for self respect pardon me for not knowing the slight difference between your terms in your terminology but i'll get used to it :)


Logging of doesnt immediately remove you from space and thus never is a good option.

ECM. ECCM is to counteract ECM.

ECM = Electronic Counter-Measures (aka jamming target's targeting computers).
ECCM = Electronic Counter Counter-Measures (aka trying to prevent your target from jamming your targeting computer).



Thank You :)
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#10 - 2014-01-21 14:26:04 UTC
This place is so... friendly. I've been in C&P for too long haha

Thank me later :D
Keno Skir
#11 - 2014-01-21 18:40:38 UTC
Gianni L'amour wrote:
log off when cloaked but even then i found myself in a pod when i logged back anyway of course it's ridiculous to speak of fair pvp


Very true, and of course if you were allowed to just log off to avoid being killed it would hardly be fair either would it? People used to do that, now the rules are changed so it takes varying amounts of time for your ship to leave space depending what flags you have and whats happening to you.

When you logged off, your ship decloaked and attempted to warp 100,000Km away to disappear. When it decloaked, of course the campers scrammed and killed it.

I'd suggest playing fully solo is a bad plan. Not to suggest you join a corp (this is the best plan) but at least make contact with people you can share a chatroom with. Failure to do so will result in you taking 5 times as long to learn most things, and complete failure to learn many.

Nice job on the Ninja Looting and early lowsec tho. Get in touch if you have questions you feel i could answer.

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Gianni L'amour
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-01-22 01:44:59 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Gianni L'amour wrote:
log off when cloaked but even then i found myself in a pod when i logged back anyway of course it's ridiculous to speak of fair pvp


Very true, and of course if you were allowed to just log off to avoid being killed it would hardly be fair either would it? People used to do that, now the rules are changed so it takes varying amounts of time for your ship to leave space depending what flags you have and whats happening to you.

When you logged off, your ship decloaked and attempted to warp 100,000Km away to disappear. When it decloaked, of course the campers scrammed and killed it.

I'd suggest playing fully solo is a bad plan. Not to suggest you join a corp (this is the best plan) but at least make contact with people you can share a chatroom with. Failure to do so will result in you taking 5 times as long to learn most things, and complete failure to learn many.

Nice job on the Ninja Looting and early lowsec tho. Get in touch if you have questions you feel i could answer.


Thank you i keep that in mind :)
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2014-01-22 02:57:41 UTC
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:
This place is so... friendly. I've been in C&P for too long haha


I'm only nasty in C&P to people that come to deliver tears.

I want to have to earn tears, not have them served up to me on a platter like that.


OP: On ECM and other things:

- ECM modules have a CHANCE to cause the person being targetted to lose all active locks and be unable to lock again for 20 seconds. Needless to say getting jammed even once is Bad News in solo PVP. The probability of a successful jam is low, but high enough to matter. (You can Google the formulae if interested).

- Local ECCM increases your resilience against ECCM, and remote ECCM increases an ally's resilience against ECCM. These are rarely worth fitting in general but are excellent if you have intel that your expected opponent in an engagement likes ECM. (For example, if you are hunting an individual and their killboard losses indicate that they often have two multispectral ECM modules on their ships, then you should consider a local ECCM module).

- Sensor Dampening can be more effective than ECM if the fight will occur at long range. If you can dictate range and apply damage well at long range, look into dampeners. They are brutal as they always work.

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