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Empire corporations

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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2014-01-19 22:40:49 UTC
As some of you may have noticed I am back in Empire space having suspended my deep space operations (if anyone is hiring/recruiting drop me a line). it got me thinking about the empire corporations that sponsor unaffiliated capsuleers.

Now I understand the reason Capsuleers who aren't in a capsuleers corporation are relegated to one of these corporations; CONCORD likes to keep an eye on us, but what do the corporations that take on capsuleers stand to gain from it? They generally have a contingent of baseliner employees and most capsuleers don't do all that much work for those corporations.
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#2 - 2014-01-20 00:08:19 UTC
Taxes.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#3 - 2014-01-20 01:12:35 UTC
My initial thought was they get a tax break, but I don't have any information regarding the matter.
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#4 - 2014-01-20 01:23:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jennifer Maxwell
No. They get tax revenue from the jobs taken by the Capsuleers who work under their auspices. So too the bounties CONCORD pays out for any piratical individuals "taken care of" by the Capsuleer.

Essentially, they reap the full benefit of the deal. They earn ISK for the actions of those they sponsor, but they suffer no repercussions from the actions taken, because that reflects entirely on the Capsuleer in question.
N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#5 - 2014-01-20 03:24:56 UTC  |  Edited by: N'maro Makari
Personally, I think we can only guess, the answer is unclear.

The tax one is plausible, after all why have a tax rate anyways otherwise, but then there's also a problem that Mr Killhappy J Shootingham with negative standings to the known universe can leave his corp anytime and find themselves with a Scope, Caldair Provisions or whatever tag.

I suspect something more mundane, the pod interface for some reason feels the need to assign any live capsuleer signature a tag of some sort. Which you think would be a fixed issue considering how much money goes into maintaining the pod interface and the neocom system in general.

**Vherokior **

Anslo
Scope Works
#6 - 2014-01-21 05:20:24 UTC
We make the news. Literally.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#7 - 2014-01-21 05:59:42 UTC
Unless you've got a friend with Rorqual, you're tied to the government... or at least your clone is, like it or not.

Though why the government would let -10 pilots back into their subsidiary companies is indeed a darn good question.

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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2014-01-21 18:19:09 UTC
Anslo wrote:
We make the news. Literally.


You forgot to put "up" into that sentence. Right between the "make" and the "the"

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Anslo
Scope Works
#9 - 2014-01-21 19:52:34 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Anslo wrote:
We make the news. Literally.


You forgot to put "up" into that sentence. Right between the "make" and the "the"

I can give you a live demonstration of how we make news if you'd like to meet me in Huola?~

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Jace Sarice
#10 - 2014-01-21 20:22:17 UTC
Anslo wrote:

I can give you a live demonstration of how we make news if you'd like to meet me in Huola?~


Generally speaking, people use news to refer to events that would be noteworthy.
Aikur Kuvas
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-01-21 20:28:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Aikur Kuvas
Xindi Kraid wrote:
As some of you may have noticed I am back in Empire space having suspended my deep space operations (if anyone is hiring/recruiting drop me a line). it got me thinking about the empire corporations that sponsor unaffiliated capsuleers.

Now I understand the reason Capsuleers who aren't in a capsuleers corporation are relegated to one of these corporations; CONCORD likes to keep an eye on us, but what do the corporations that take on capsuleers stand to gain from it? They generally have a contingent of baseliner employees and most capsuleers don't do all that much work for those corporations.


If you are interested in working in Providence, feel free to send me a mail and we can see about setting up an interview. Uchusen Technologies is always looking for experienced pilots. Caldari pilots are especially welcome for fleet doctrine compatibility, but we do not discriminate.

On the topic of corporations, I feel that everyone previously has brought up valid points. I know that some people create their own corporations simply to avoid paying taxes to people that will not reimburse them in any way directly.

However, I feel that taxes and regulation are more as a by product of the situation.

A Capsuleer's corporation is where their identity lies. A Baseliner may not be apart of these corporations because they do not have the opportunities Capsuleers do. They do not have nearly as much freedom, and are far easier to keep track of.

Expanding on what Mr. N'maro Makari mentioned, I believe that it mainly has to do with identification for our interfaces. A way to keep track of every capsuleer's identity in the cluster.

Miss Katran Luftschreck made an interesting point as well. While I can entirely agree that someone with a -10 security status being allowed back into a non-capsuleer company is illogical, I would have to go back to my previous point of it having mostly to do with classification.

The system our intergalactic network is designed around is entirely dependent on identifying capsuleers by their corporation. It simply is incapable of having a capsuleer not in a corporation.

The other point Katran Luftschreck mentioned about your clone being entirely tied to the government is not entirely true, although I see her point. If you own, or know capsuleers who own, a station in Nullsec, you are able to use a medical facility that is outside of any Empire's reach. The Rorqual is certainly one way, but it is not the only way.

"A fire-eater must eat fire, even if he has to kindle it himself." - Mercenary Proverb

Anslo
Scope Works
#12 - 2014-01-21 20:38:11 UTC
Jace Sarice wrote:
Anslo wrote:

I can give you a live demonstration of how we make news if you'd like to meet me in Huola?~


Generally speaking, people use news to refer to events that would be noteworthy.


Same could be said for your opinion in the matter, kid.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]