Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Cynos should definitely be a no-go, even covert cynos, due to disruption by spatial phenomenon or something like that ;)

Ruined stations or wrecked ships (broken Naglfars, chunks of Revelations, supercarrier and Titan wrecks as well) could be part of the site as either just eye candy or as part of the site that contains goodies.



That's a good idea. Being able to warp to fleet members once inside the cloud, but you don't land where you wanted to, instead landing somewhere on grid with your intended landing point.


Edit:
I think the OP's version of the site is likely the best so far, the idea of different versions of these sites I'm hesitant about. Damaging clouds seem unnecessary and actually harmful to the sites, since Frigates would be the primary ship used given their large size.
Hindering certain weapon types or sensor types also aren't particularly great ideas imho.

I absolutly LOVE this idea!

I can imagine so much fun to be had just exploring those things.

There is one big Problem I see though.

If you cant warp at all in them the only chance to get out is by flying.

This basicly means, everytime you loose your ship you need to POD out, or wait 20hours to slowboat your pod out.
In WH you can at least warp out and get a new ship at the POS or something like that. And you only need to POD when you totally screwed up. But in those things you always need to POD out.

Maybe an effekt that automatically hurls your POD out when you sit in it. For example the space in the anomaly is so much shifting around that a small mass like the POD is not stable enouph to hold position and is hence catapulted in a random direction outside. (Like POS password change catapulting only to PODs)
That way a small fleet which is lost could also find the nearest direction for the exit by sacrificing one fleetmember and watch where the POD is going. :)

It would need to be forbidden to exit the ship while beeing in there than. Otherwise you would be catapulted out, and the ship would stay. hehe, hm, when thinking about it... But than nobody would ever be able to board it.
The effekt would be basicly no POD kills in it.

Another thing I could imagine with them:

When they are not permanent and appearing randomly it could be possible to have them envolope a gate or a POCO. So people will need to enter to get to there destinatin. Although I would beleave this should only be possible in 0.0sec.

Honestly, I think I'd rather it worked like a wormhole - either you get help to get your pod out (hey, bring me a ship in that Orca, or, since you have no implants, let me borrow yours), or take the Pod Express.

All part of the risk/reward.

Still loving this concept!

To be honest, I am imagining this as a gigantic Warp disruption / Scan disruption /WH Effekt /... Bubble. With hundrets of Grids and for navigation purposis the ability to use the deployable Micro Jump Structure to move larger ships around fast. Without a specific entry point. Which would mean, local inside would be the same as outside.

Using Micro Jump Structures actually give PVPer the possiblity if they happen to stumble across one to kill it effektivly disrupting the marked way out. The one how laid the way down would need to get help by an interceptor or something fast to lay down a new way out.

When you have an enrty point it will be camped or guarded or watched. Which defeats the purpose of the whole thing.

Capitals should be able to enter, but because they cant use the Micro Jump drives, they would never be able to enter more deeply. Unless they want to slowboat the way.

Yes, I posted earlier in the thread about using the MJD deployable as a possibility, but that also has drawbacks.
If my calculations are correct, a player group could string them out at 100 km intervals, and if the 12 second spoolup number I read about is accurate, players can move 500 km / minute, or as fast as a tricked out interceptor. That is too fast, way too fast for most ships.

Granted, there is the cost of laying down the deployables, and the risk that someone with bad intents may follow your breadcrumbs of MJD's, but overall. something would have to be done to slow down the speed these provide.

Yes, you got a point. Spooluptime could be a measure. But I think if those MMJD were too powerfull speedwise in this Phenomenon it is too powerfull outside.

Or you could just increase the size of the Dinsdale Phenomenon Cloud.

That is a balancing issue though.
In my point of view, it should be big enouph that a couple people could zoom around in it with ceptors without noticing each other.
But as you said allready, they can come in different sizes.

Let's move Eve to THE CLOUD :)

I started playing Eve almost seven years ago as the idea of exploring the mysteries of the universe really appealed to me.

Exploration as it is now, is just puerile.

Dinsdale, you have restored my faith in the whole concept of Eve Online space exploration.

Also, credit to Malcanis for supporting you with this idea.

CCP make it happen.

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The main thing for me would be to keep the focus on the exploration part and not turn it into an isk per hour exercise.

They say, "When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail".

I don't know what tool a Reaver prefers... but to them we all look like bacon.

I like the idea of this being a deep space phenomenon, but also like the idea that it is still within system where people can stumble across it and think 'Holy *insert chosen expletive* what the *choose another expletive* is that???'

I still think the level of reward for entering these phenomenon needs to be balanced with the sec-status of the area it occurs in otherwise new players will avoid like the plague since older more powerful players will simply own the areas. If the reward is relatively low then older players won't bother and the newer players will at least have a chance and hopefully become more involved.

If the rewards are always high then the region will simply look like a giant null-sec gate camp to newer players who will then avoid them like the plague.