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Possible reasons for loss of SP while unsubbed?
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Atlas Durham
Ancient Architects
#1 - 2014-01-20 20:49:19 UTC
Hey guys,

I hate to create a new thread about missing SP but Google / a forum search has failed me.

That said, I've just returned to the game after a ~four month break and noticed that this character appears to have less SP than when I unsubbed. Here's the chart I referred to which, unless I'm missing something, verifies a 450k SP loss while unsubbed (thus eliminating being podded with an out of date clone / T3 loss as possible culprits).

Thanks in advance for any insight!

Atlas
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#2 - 2014-01-20 20:50:45 UTC
Atlas Durham wrote:
Hey guys,

I hate to create a new thread about missing SP but Google / a forum search has failed me.

That said, I've just returned to the game after a ~four month break and noticed that this character appears to have less SP than when I unsubbed. Here's the chart I referred to which, unless I'm missing something, verifies a 450k SP loss while unsubbed (thus eliminating being podded with an out of date clone / T3 loss as possible culprits).

Thanks in advance for any insight!

Atlas



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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#3 - 2014-01-20 20:57:33 UTC
The only thing I can think of is if something you trained was removed from game, for example learning skills. But then you should have 'unallocated skill points' awaititng to be applied. so besides that.. petition

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Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#4 - 2014-01-20 20:58:54 UTC
Yeah, check of unallocated skill points.

Make sure he has all his limbs too.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-01-20 21:04:53 UTC
Anyone remember if they remove some command ship SP if you didn't have all the new requirement? 4 month is not long enough to be affected by the dessy/BC re-shuffling.
Atlas Durham
Ancient Architects
#6 - 2014-01-20 21:10:32 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
[Did you petition or did you really want to discuss this here?


No to both questions. I try to avoid discussing basically anything here, however, I decided to risk the nearly inevitable circlejerk in order to hopefully avoid wasting CCPs resources on an issue that could be better spent addressing those far more pressing than mine. Wait, why am I explaining myself to you anyway (just a friendly jab, figured I may as well throw the first punch!).

DaReaper wrote:
The only thing I can think of is if something you trained was removed from game, for example learning skills. But then you should have 'unallocated skill points' awaiting to be applied. so besides that.. petition


He only has ~25k from those two downtimes around the BC rebalance (DDoS attacks if memory serves). Thanks for the suggestion, though!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2014-01-20 21:14:35 UTC
Was this 4 month break forced upon you by any chance...say...for botting?





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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-01-20 21:17:59 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Was this 4 month break forced upon you by any chance...say...for botting?






Even if it was, still wouldn't answer the question of SP loss.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#9 - 2014-01-20 21:20:02 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Was this 4 month break forced upon you by any chance...say...for botting?

Even if it was, still wouldn't answer the question of SP loss.
True, but a least you wouldn't feel bad for the guy.

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Toalk
Killer Monkey Army
#10 - 2014-01-20 21:22:31 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Was this 4 month break forced upon you by any chance...say...for botting?

Even if it was, still wouldn't answer the question of SP loss.
True, but a least you wouldn't feel bad for the guy.



bots have feelings too....

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#11 - 2014-01-20 21:25:13 UTC
Toalk wrote:
bots have feelings too....


Until the bots I extinguish decide to gift me delicious tears or ooze posterior pain in local, I reject your idea.


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Atlas Durham
Ancient Architects
#12 - 2014-01-20 21:26:21 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Was this 4 month break forced upon you by any chance...say...for botting?

Even if it was, still wouldn't answer the question of SP loss.
True, but a least you wouldn't feel bad for the guy.


That's a negative, I only commit criminal acts in strict accordance to CCP's policies Big smile Also, who in their right mind would seek sympathy on these forums of all places?
Callic Veratar
#13 - 2014-01-20 21:30:45 UTC
Atlas Durham wrote:
That's a negative, I only commit criminal acts in strict accordance to CCP's policies Big smile Also, who in their right mind would seek sympathy on these forums of all places?

You'd be surprised.
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Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#14 - 2014-01-20 21:49:29 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Anyone remember if they remove some command ship SP if you didn't have all the new requirement? 4 month is not long enough to be affected by the dessy/BC re-shuffling.



Nope.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2014-01-20 21:56:47 UTC
if you had a skill training before the break the api may have reported it as still training and eveboard assumed it kept training and was done, where when you resubbed the game said, nope it stopped (3 days?) after your sub expired, and eveboard is just now seeing that.

I know evenmon thinks my alt has marauders 5 trained, but nearly all of that was on an expired account so when I do resub him I will "lose" a bunch of sp in evemon, but it shouldn't really have ever been there.

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Paranoid Loyd
#16 - 2014-01-20 21:59:53 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
if you had a skill training before the break the api may have reported it as still training and eveboard assumed it kept training and was done, where when you resubbed the game said, nope it stopped (3 days?) after your sub expired, and eveboard is just now seeing that.

I know evenmon thinks my alt has marauders 5 trained, but nearly all of that was on an expired account so when I do resub him I will "lose" a bunch of sp in evemon, but it shouldn't really have ever been there.


This would be my guess as well.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#17 - 2014-01-20 22:01:59 UTC
Atlas Durham wrote:
Also, who in their right mind would seek sympathy on these forums of all places?


The same kind of people who cry on the news when a lion tamer gets attacked and killed by a lion and ask "Why? Why did this happen?"


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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#18 - 2014-01-20 22:17:13 UTC
Is it possible you lost a bonus round right before quitting and forgot? List all your character names so we can rule that out.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2014-01-20 22:19:29 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Is it possible you lost a bonus round right before quitting and forgot? List all your character names so we can rule that out.

Get him on coms, we may need to determine who he is by his singing voice.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#20 - 2014-01-20 22:24:56 UTC
Take a look at this for skills added and removed/reimbursed:

List of newly added skills, sorted by date
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