Jita Park Speakers Corner

Greetings Sports Fans,

Here is the Schedule for the CSM8 January Summit that is happening this January 22nd thru the 24th. As many of you will notice, quite a few of our sessions have been covered by the NDA. Many of these will be un-NDA'd in the very near future, and will continue to be revealed as the subjects of those discussions are announced by CCP (typically in a Dev Blog or forum post).

Feel free to post in this thread if you have any questions or concerns.

If those NDA'd sessions aren't about Russian cold-war era submarines, I will be very disappointed

Earlier clarity on game changing mechanics, like the ESS and the MSI, are needed to make aware to the bulk of the player base much earlier than 1 month before release.

It is also a concern that pushing forward will cause many things that need to be fixed or that need further iteration, like POSes and the state of exploration, to be left behind for the sale of progress.

I'm so running for CSM if I get to golf with CCP!

In my experience, the Alliance Tournament is the way too go for CCP golfing opportunities. Actually, I might do an unofficial Golf with CCP outing for Fanfest, that sounds pretty cool.

GRR!!! Should have gone to Fanfest instead of Eve Vegas If your in Vegas next year we'll haft to get together.

I understand that. Though should that be the case?

I would advocate that future ideas are vetted in the features and ideas form before its set in stone.

Edit: what's this about in diana Jones and the temple of poon?

i would do it like this.

you have a concept.

you develop it with your team once you are happy with it you run it by the csm once its been vetted by the csm before you start operational work on it you then post said idea on F&D form to see what the players think.

This IMO this is what Fozzie and rise do constantly. though it seems they are the only ones who follow this design concept.

Developers can choose to not go this way as it does slow down development and take the chance that thier idea is a hit or miss.

though i am under the impression that wasted development time is a bad thing and would prefer the community involvelement before the idea gets worked on by programers and artists.

What's the point of announcing summit schedule to the public when everything is NDA and basically to every question we will get same response: "NDA"?

I would love to see some update regarding backend and "legacy code" work, I would love to see explanation what is SO hard in introducing simple bug fixes and functionality tweaks (for example d-scan window). Is anybody even working on drones UI ? Any mastermind even tried to tackle overview settings recently? Yeah I know, you have ideas, you talk, nothing is done...

You show those presentations about philosophy of UI design, power points and arrows and bullet points but the truth is Eve UI - while a lot better than when I started to play - is pretty clunky to use. So any chance of getting anything done about it in NEAR future instead of Soon(TM)?

Malc's super quick summit report (before I go sleep for 18 hours).

(1) Iceland is a pretty strange place for sure, and a lot of EVE's idiosyncracies become much more understandable after you go there

(2) CSM 8 has hit it out the park with regards to participation. There wasn't a single session with less than 10 members attending, most had 11-12.

(3) If we were to draw a distinguishing line between the summer summit and this one, then it would be: Summer was "Detail", Winter was "Direction". Not that we didn't do a fair amount of detail stuff, just that the big items were "Direction". Overally I am extremely satisfied that CCP as a whole 'gets it'. Almost all the dev teams we spoke to were on the same page as the CSM on the big issues.

(4) There was very little that CCP put in front of us that we didn't like, and several "Ship it. We want it on Monday." moments.

(5) Grayscale is back. New. Improved. Faster. Tougher. Without pity. He absolutely will not stop until he has nerfed the target.

(6) Wait no that was Terminator 2. Grayscale instead had some amazingly good exchanges with us, and provided one of the best "Ship it!" proposals of the summit.

(7) We're quietly confident that we're going to get minutes out much quicker this time. The new process is much better. CCP Logibro is an ultimate hero savior, btw.

(8) Brennavin is not aniseed flavoured, like everyone will tell you; it's caraway. I like the stuff.

(9) One session was a disappointment to me (and I'm pretty sure to the others), and I think we've still got some work to do with that, because it felt like there was a real lack of empathy of what our requirements and desires and motivations are.

(10) The "work" does not stop with the last meeting of the day. The informal bar sessions with the devs who care to join us and talk even more about EVE are also vital. You don't get minutes of those, though. Suck it up and get elected if you really want to know.

(11) Yes I will answer questions re: the above when I wake up. No I won't break the NDA and yes I'll just make you feel bad if you try and get me to.