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Naglfar Custom Build

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Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-01-17 10:53:18 UTC
So, the great and powerful Mittens has declared that all of our dreadnoughts shall be vertical so as to defeat the elitist forces of N3. So, I find myself in the market for a Naglfar. There's a catch though: have you seen Minmatar ships? The interiors suck. I mean, full on 100% uncomfortable, no luxuries to speak of, dull colored suck. I spent a night in a Minmatar station before, instead of chairs, they had spent 425mm brass to sit on. I kid you not. I went to sleep and thought that the pillow was as hard as a rock. The next morning when I went to investigate: damn thing was a lump of Veldspar. Even though they're free, they still live like slaves; now that's irony for you.
I own a Revelation and an Archon, a few other capitals too, but that's not important right now. The point is, I like the interiors of my Amarrian ships. Nice carpet, good decor, well lit, the works. Why does this matter? Well, when I am deployed, I live out of my ship, if I can, which I can with a capital. There's enough room for a good state room, amenities and some recreational areas.
So, I am looking for someone who can build me a Naglfar, but put in Amarrian interiors wherever possible. Also, if you could generally make sure they thing is not held together with some string and chewed gum that would be great too.
Builders interested should mail me a quote or post here.

Side note, now recruiting 3500mm gun crews. Baseliners interested should send their resume to Amok. HR.

((OOC note: this is in the correct sub forum, as it is meant for the RP community only.))

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.

Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#2 - 2014-01-17 11:41:57 UTC
Had a friend who liked to do that for clients he did not like. What would look like a glorious golden Armageddon on the outside would have the interior similar to that of a tempest. Needless to say he never had to work for clients he did not like for long.

As for the job you ask for I would do it but I am backed up on other projects Sad

Good luck anyway.

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#3 - 2014-01-17 11:42:09 UTC
Ms. Vea.

As you might know already, Stillwater Corporation employs a team of Salvation Angel engineers that have constructed our home, the Ivory Tower, and have finished working on its expansion, upgrades and refurnishing a couple of weeks ago.

I can mail you some examples of their work when it comes to starbase and starship architecture.

I'm sure working on designing and constructing suitable habitational areas and related amenities for a capital ship isn't something they'd consider problematic, as such an amount of work is less than building a full functional space station from scratch.

If you are interested, I'll notify Stillwater's capsuleer Salvation Angels in charge of capital construction and see if we can work out a sensible price for both the ship construction and modifications to the blueprints, as well as some sort of a deadline. Also, I have to say right away the changes to the blueprints won't affect any of the Naglfar's Class combat performance stats; I'm sure you understand, we can't just go around installing advanced Angel parts into any ship out there.

Please contact me via mail if you are interested in my offer.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc

Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-01-17 11:49:27 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Ms. Vea.

As you might know already, Stillwater Corporation employs a team of Salvation Angel engineers that have constructed our home, the Ivory Tower, and have finished working on its expansion, upgrades and refurnishing a couple of weeks ago.

I can mail you some examples of their work when it comes to starbase and starship architecture.

I'm sure working on designing and constructing suitable habitational areas and related amenities for a capital ship isn't something they'd consider problematic, as such an amount of work is less than building a full functional space station from scratch.

If you are interested, I'll notify Stillwater's capsuleer Salvation Angels in charge of capital construction and see if we can work out a sensible price for both the ship construction and modifications to the blueprints, as well as some sort of a deadline. Also, I have to say right away the changes to the blueprints won't affect any of the Naglfar's Class combat performance stats; I'm sure you understand, we can't just go around installing advanced Angel parts into any ship out there.

Please contact me via mail if you are interested in my offer.

I've sent you a mail. And yes, I am aware that the combat stats will be the same. Angel parts or not, nothing's going to make that ship withstand 4 DDs, so let's keep the price cheap.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-01-17 14:02:51 UTC
Racist jibes aside,

This has to do with the interior blueprints you used or were used in the construction; while the capsuleer Naglfar is based on a slightly older model than the fleet uses, Matari have never considered war to be comfortable or money spent on carpeting and candelabras in a warship to be money well spent.

Perhaps base the interior on some of the newest fleet models or as suggested by Leopold, the engineers of the Cartel who have always preferred a more luxurious feel to their starships. I can verify that the ones he employs directly did an excellent job on the Ivory Tower and it would be money well spent.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#6 - 2014-01-17 14:08:37 UTC
I figured the interior of every ship you flew to be configured like a giant toilet.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"

Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-01-17 14:14:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Alizabeth Vea
Ayallah wrote:
Racist jibes aside,

This has to do with the interior blueprints you used or were used in the construction; while the capsuleer Naglfar is based on a slightly older model than the fleet uses, Matari have never considered war to be comfortable or money spent on carpeting and candelabras in a warship to be money well spent.

Perhaps base the interior on some of the newest fleet models or as suggested by Leopold, the engineers of the Cartel who have always preferred a more luxurious feel to their starships. I can verify that the ones he employs directly did an excellent job on the Ivory Tower and it would be money well spent.

Hey now. I've got nothing against the Minmatar. Anything said was in good (read: absolutely poor) humor. I'm actually rather expecting to get a good bunch for gun crews. I know about War and Comfort, having served in the Caldari Navy Marines. No one practiced misery like us. 'If it ain't rainin', we ain't trainin'.' (I'd like to stick my boot in the ass of whomever coined that phrase.) But now, being a capsuleer and all, if I don't have my grape peeler with me on deployment, that counts as 'roughing it.' (Note: I do not have a grape peeler.)

Ava Starfire wrote:
I figured the interior of every ship you flew to be configured like a giant toilet.

Cause I'm so full of ****. I get it. Clever.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.

Del Vikus
Sundered Core
#8 - 2014-01-17 17:21:16 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
The point is, I like the interiors of my Amarrian ships. Nice carpet, good decor, well lit, the works. Why does this matter? Well, when I am deployed, I live out of my ship, if I can, which I can with a capital. There's enough room for a good state room, amenities and some recreational areas.


I too live on my ships when I am not in pod. It's important that every ship I own have at least a good stateroom with a library, with real paper books. We all have our vices.

Having never flown a capital ship, let alone stepped into one in a non-capsule capacity, I cannot speak from experience -- but a few notes on Minmatar "big ship" design culture that are not widely known:

-- Most were built in secret by "unofficial" sources. As I'm sure you understand, the Republic Fleet is fairly young, and itself does not field many capital ships relative to the other Empires. While Capital ships are of course part of the sanctioned and official Navy, many of its operational ships of the line, including the Naglfar, were built in Thukker dockyards in nullsec. Others are built by Pirate Kingdoms of various stripes and sold to sustain their nefarious enterprises. All of this is another way of saying that "comfort" isn't exactly high on the priority list of most of the organizations putting these beasts together.

-- There is more variation in the hull design of Minmatar capitals than any other empire capital. As the Angel-affiliated criminal Caine alludes to here, it is indeed possible to customize the interior to a higher degree of "personalization" than you'd be able to find in a Caldari capital ship, for example, and even a Federation vessel of similar purpose. This mostly has to do with the above point: that the manufacturing source of Matari-design capital ships is extremely highly varied.

Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#9 - 2014-01-18 07:37:42 UTC
I can have shag carpet put in on the cheap.

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#10 - 2014-01-19 13:28:05 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
(Note: I do not have a grape peeler..


Well then it's not gonna be a proper Amarrian interior, now is it?

I keep my grape peeler next to my private cocktail bar. His name it Floyd.

(Ok that last part was a joke)

(Gallente service drone technically isn't a "he.")

(But it's name is Floyd)

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Nashuar Attor
Rat Kings Crew
#11 - 2014-01-20 04:05:54 UTC
You do make a good point Ms. Vea.
While for many year I flew Minmatar battleships like the Maelstrom, the last few years my main battleship has been the Machariel. While I didn't purchase this ship for the interior ergonomics and recreational facilities, it did open my eyes to an entirely new world. I found my crew to be happier and more productive, and I found that rather than basing myself on a station I simply made my home on my ship, even in station.
Nowadays I fly a Thanatos, and the comforts that the Gallente build in as standard are very nice indeed.
About the only Minmatar ship I fly at all these days in the Loki, which has been extensively modified for extended wormhole space operations and thus requires a much higher standard of comfort.

You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.

Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2014-01-20 04:15:55 UTC
Nashuar Attor wrote:
You do make a good point Ms. Vea.
While for many year I flew Minmatar battleships like the Maelstrom, the last few years my main battleship has been the Machariel. While I didn't purchase this ship for the interior ergonomics and recreational facilities, it did open my eyes to an entirely new world. I found my crew to be happier and more productive, and I found that rather than basing myself on a station I simply made my home on my ship, even in station.
Nowadays I fly a Thanatos, and the comforts that the Gallente build in as standard are very nice indeed.
About the only Minmatar ship I fly at all these days in the Loki, which has been extensively modified for extended wormhole space operations and thus requires a much higher standard of comfort.


No ship is complete without a leather armchair, plush carpet, some artwork on the walls, and a stocked liquor cabinet.

It should be included in the cost of every single ship. All of them.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Johanes Beaumonte
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2014-01-20 16:56:13 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:


No ship is complete without a leather armchair, plush carpet, some artwork on the walls, and a stocked liquor cabinet.

It should be included in the cost of every single ship. All of them.



And Cigars, my fine Sir, Cigars.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#14 - 2014-01-21 02:59:38 UTC
Nashuar Attor wrote:
Nowadays I fly a Thanatos, and the comforts that the Gallente build in as standard are very nice indeed.


True! Comfort is one of those few areas where the Gallente & we Amarrians can actually agree on. We both greatly appreciate both beauty & luxury.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0