Missions & Complexes

If there wouldn't be a mechanic which discourages group-play..

Or if there would be missions worth running with multiple people..



Anyway. Gankers should face consequences again. It shouldn't be possible to live in highsec with -10 (trololol be on the move and you're fine) and it shouldn't be so easy to get the sec-status back.

As I said in F&I : Currently, a mission runner faces more consequences than a ganker, which is ridiculous.. Yes, ruined standings is actually more of a penalty as what gankers are currently having, and this needs to be changed. EvE is supposed to be a game with consequences, but one group of people don't have to worry about them any longer.

I'm confused about the first thing you said. I don't think anything that discourages group activity in Eve is a good thing.

I've often said this but CCP is reluctant to improve highec content. Maybe it's because they want you to join one of the big alliances and move to low or nullsec? We had level 5 missions but they were moved to lowsec. Incursions are slightly like this but the way it's setup you have to compete for DPS with other fleets and this requires shiny if you want to win.

There really isn't a downside to highsec ganking other than that annoying kill right that means nothing. Oooh I'm scared ABC Carebear corp has kill rights on me... I hope I don't get a fleet of mission ships chasing me! Now sometimes they make it public at the most inopportune time when you're at the Jita gate LOL. Sec status isn't a problem since you're just ganking and when you feel like doing something other than ganking just rat a bit in lowsec and it goes away. If you're lazy buy tags.

There are steps you can take to avoid being ganked but they're not 100%. Don't sit at the warp in point from the gate. If someone comes in your mission warp out.

If you're in a nasty system like the SOE ones fit all T2. Yes they can still gank you for the LOLz but chances are they won't.

Actually just the opposite. Most of the cops would be on 0.4 and below. in 1.0-0.8, people don't shoot their neighbor over a Toostie Roll on an hourly basis.

If you gank a lot in hi-sec, you get so many kill rights on you that is starts to become a problem. The problem is the 15-30M public kill rights, the price is high enough that you don't want to clear it, but still cheap enough that you risk getting ganked if you flying anything cruiser or bigger.

The easy solution is to make a dedicated gank alt on an existing account, and dual train for 1-2 months, when you don't need to pay the extra monthly plex and you don't need to worry about getting ganked.

This isn't actually a problem. The common way around it is to undock at a popular station in a somewhat blingy ship & sit there until someone pays money to activate the killright. Once that happens you dock up, switch to a rookie ship & let someone kill you in that.

It sometimes requires frequent redocking to avoid bumps. After awhile they either give up or activate the killright in a fit of rage. If all else fails, people will often agree to activate your 100m killright under the promise of 120m later.

-10 shouldn't be allowed to dock in high sec stations (or any emipre/non-nullsec stations?), fleeting with a -10 should give you a suspect flag for as long as you are in fleet with them (yes, I know this provision would be abused, maybe tie it into the safety system?)

What reallyl sucks, is that you often can't preemptively gan the gankers, because if you fire first, concord won't show up at all, or they aren't valid targets because its so easy now to raise sec status, and concord comes after you instead.

Somebody needs better reading comprehension.

Read this again:
"What really sucks, is that you often can't preemptively gank the gankers, because if you fire first, concord won't show up at all, or they aren't valid targets because its so easy now to raise sec status, and concord comes after you instead."

#1) "You are free to fire on anyone -5 or lower"
Yes, and concord won't help you when you do, like I said

#2) Note that I said "or they aren't valid targets"

When a bunch of catalysts show up on grid, at -2 sec status or so.... you can't try to volley them off the field... nope, you have to warp off before they point you, or wait until they point you to fire, which may be after they get under your guns and scram you, and then light you up with blasters.

Failing a single mission, whether due to being ganked or for any other reason, doesn't "ruin" your standings.

There used to be 2. It got cut to 1 when they dumbed down the agent types.