Warfare & Tactics

HED-GP proved the simple point. 700 dreads could only kill what, 8 archons?

The simple math proves that CCP is lying when they say there are hundreds of ships you can fit as you like and that new players can be useful in pvp. You can't.

If you cannot fly an archon, nyx, or interceptor, then there is no point playing in nullsec sov war any more. Sad, I missed the old days when t1 cruisers had a place in sov war too. Those days are gone.

And what is the core issue? Ship balance is one, but the critical issue is server stability. If you assign drones to someone, it does not matter if you are lagging horribly in TiDi (although even that breaks in 0.1 Tidi). You can still fight in an Archon, because the drones will do what they do no matter what.

Everything else that isn't an archon, Nyx or instant action ship (interceptors) - forget it. You simply cannot play once local numbers go past 600, the server starts to freak out at 1250 players, and at 2000+ there is a superb chance of 50 minute warps and outright subserver crashing. The subservers have been crashed at least twice in the Southern war so far, apparently at will by Pandemic to save their caps. And if you go past 4000? ... HED-GP happens. One side loses while not even able to see their own ships, or activate any modules, and unable to target and fire.

So basically, EVE is all about interceptors and drones now. Even the Sisters of EVE ships are drone boats. Oh and drones are immune to ECM, so that entire aspect of the game is pretty much dead, especailly in capital scale fleet warfare (which is any sov warfare now).

So yes, CCP rebalance dreads immediately, or change your advertising. About 500 players are potentially going to unsubscribe due to the debacle that is the state of nullsec warfare - and not on one side, either. It's boring to the nth power, but with the total inability of CCP to resolve the server stability issues with drone fleet doctrines, the blunt reality is that anything that isn't a drone ship is totally useless in nullsec sov war because they stop working first when the tidi hits, and the drones keep going at server speed.



Oh, and how to get the skills to fly an archon and the ship? Pay to play, of course. Change the business model to free to play rather than monthly sub if you insist on making pvp that matters capital ships only CCP. Because there are a lot of other pvp games out there using the free to play model right now, and guess what, they are more stable. When game like Star Citizen hit, EVE Online will be in deep trouble if you have not sorted out the utter disgrace that nullsec server stability and game performance has become. No excuses, you have had plenty of time to make lots of pretty expansions with items no-one uses because they were cute but fundamentally flawed in their design. Do something, or watch the Third Great War become the Last Great War.

Been there, done that.

For a long time the ships in use varied, usually changing after every patch by the devs. FOr example Nulli used proteus, -A- used tengus, Goons used dominix. But now, HED-GP has shown very simply that the game is now archon blob + Nyx (optional) vs nothing.

Nothing can beat the archons, because the servers CANNOT handle the battle fleets needed to kill them. That is what happened in HED=GP: CCP's design was shown to be flawed.


The long promised massed attack by dreadnaughts and 1,000 battleships on an archon fleet ended with ... 50 minute warps, 250 dead dreads most of whom never got to see the battlefield, activate a module, or actually lock anything let alone shoot it, and half the dread fleet ending up back where they started because the HED-GP system could not accept the players.

So all in all ... this was meant to be one of the most memorable battles ever fought in EVE.

It was, but for the entirely wrong reason - i.e. that utterly horrible server performance robbed the players of actual pvp. And yes, a lot of people will be quitting over that because it proves that the current way to win in nullsec warfare is also the MOST boring and least skilled way ever invented. To put things in perspective, I suck in pvp. But I can fly a slowcat just fine, and know how to assign my fighters or drones as ordered and then watch a movie while the tidi wins the war.

That isn't worth paying real money for. So fix it CCP, fix it fast.

Fixed.

I fight in Gallente FW, and I call this bull excrement. Sure it doesn't affect me, but it DOES affect a large portion of the game. TiDi is partly the reason I don't/can't go fight in null. I've got 2-3 hours max a day to play. I want that to be full of gameplay, not full of 30 minutes to an hour of a single warp in a single system to find out that I'm dead already.

A band-aid from 2 years ago needs to get changed into permanent stitch that will heal with time.

^this.

it's like saying the only ships good at bubbling are HICs and Dics. Well, sure, and?

One day the null blobs will discover the power of the Hookbill.


Then and only then will there be no counter.

lol, as if somebody actually used T1 cruisers for Null Sov Warfare.

Didnt we all start from that very point of no sp ????? im sure we did but hey were here pvping .
noobies can start in eve uni or rvb to wet there apitite for pvp and skill up and earn a little isk before going out into the big bad world. (also while there low skilled tackle or something like an ewar ship are quick to train into and always usefull on fleets)

who would have thought in a game tagged massively MULTIPLAYER online game there`d be u know players playing together and even have alts to help them when there solo or small gang against other players playing in a blob..

Ill admit i do use boosts when fighting out numbered but when its me and one other guy and i know hes not boosted i wont use mine i keep it cloaked

I really dont understand colt ur so bitter towards this game but you still log in and u still either pay for ur account or buy a plex off market either way ur still filling ccps pockets on something thats clearly affecting your state of mind and u think is so awful

Colt, you should open up a little more and tell people how you really feel. It's not good keeping it all pent up inside man - one day you'll super-nova on a forum somewhere and look a little bit silly.

U really dont get the plex thing do you if people like you wouldnt buy plex with isk thered be none for sale on market everyone of the plexes bought is cash in ccps pocket even more so than buying 30 days with cash.

plexes cost more..

so my original point still stands yes u are still lining ccps pockets when u buy a plex in game.... tbf if u feel the games fkd why even bother at all

Think before u emorage...!!!!!