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Dare Devel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-11-23 19:23:57 UTC
Hi All,
I have setup 1 extractor Control Unit with 10 Extractor Head Units (they are not touching each other).
On the area I have set it to 11.30 hrs. The output it is displaying is
OUTPUT
Per Hour: 29217 units
Total: 336005 units.

Then I click on Install Program and Submit button successively. When I go back to the survey screen I see following details
OUTPUT
Per Hour: 8877units
Total: 102086 units.


Extractor Head Units have following indexs
85.30, 85.36, 84.05
82.57, 83.27, 84.46
84.14, 85.63, 80.56, 85.23

Why this massive reduction after submit?
Any ideas?

Many Thanks
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2011-11-23 19:28:06 UTC
the numbers before installing the job are essentially nothing more than an estimate.

your skills are sub-optimal.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Dare Devel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-11-23 19:30:07 UTC
Thanks
Alisarina
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-11-24 10:25:47 UTC
Also remember that planet materials are shared with others extracting them so that will also impact on your total output and output per hour. It's another reason high sec extraction sucks balls, your fighting with teh care bears and their armies of alts trying to get a slice of the same pie that you want, thing is...there are unlimited slices...it's just you get an infinitly smaller slice due to the amount of people wanting a slice too.

This is why back water systems or dead end systems tend to be 'better' even if they look worse. However the only real way to find out is to set up shop and start extracting..or atleast set up an extractor with 10 heads and hit submit and see the results. Keep in mind however that teh hot spots will move and it may end up being worse than it was when you started.

Isn't PI fun?
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#5 - 2011-11-24 14:38:39 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
the numbers before installing the job are essentially nothing more than an estimate.

your skills are sub-optimal.


Specifically, train up Planetology and Advanced Planetology.

P3 / AP0 - good starter level
P4 / AP3 - good level for semi-serious
P4 / AP4 - serious PI extraction

(Those skills improve how accurate the heat map is in showing you where the hot-spot nuggets are, which impacts how accurate the initial survey numbers in your ECU survey window are. Or you can just guess, start your ECU, then go back in and look at what you actually got.)
Joel Mi
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-11-24 19:05:53 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
the numbers before installing the job are essentially nothing more than an estimate.

your skills are sub-optimal.


Specifically, train up Planetology and Advanced Planetology.

P3 / AP0 - good starter level
P4 / AP3 - good level for semi-serious
P4 / AP4 - serious PI extraction

(Those skills improve how accurate the heat map is in showing you where the hot-spot nuggets are, which impacts how accurate the initial survey numbers in your ECU survey window are. Or you can just guess, start your ECU, then go back in and look at what you actually got.)


i have a question about this


lets say that im using multiple alts for extration, but i only have one char with lv5 planetology and lv4 ap.

If i use manage to use this char to do the survey for the others extration will i be able to get almost the same results as if all alts had good planetology and adv planetology skills?


In other words is the scan that we do with a char, tied to the extration rates we get from it? or is this non related and one char can scan for hotspots so others can use them?
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#7 - 2011-11-24 20:02:04 UTC
Extraction rates don't change based on the skill level - they only affect the estimates in the survey window and whether the heatmap is accurate.

I have a 4/4 alt which I use to do global surveys (such as looking at 50-60 planets before picking which 5 I want to extract from). But most of my PI harvesting alts only have 3/0 for their skills - mostly so that the location of the hotspots isn't a complete mystery.