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HED battle: Few observations /suggestions from neutral spectator

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TharOkha
0asis Group
#1 - 2014-01-19 10:32:24 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
What CCP needs to do as a first thing.

If you cannot loggin to overpopulated system, lets make a choice to load to neighborhood system. Like in Jita on primetime.

i just wanted to go to HED yesterday to observe the battle in cloaky. I couldnt jump in, i couldnt to login to EVE. I thought "ok its overpopulated i want to go out".. nope.. i had to wait until EVE morning (after the battle) to finaly log in the game. Simple "load to neighborhood system" would solve this problem.

Now,

According the battle. Its clearly a matter of fact that nowadays HW cannot drive such lagre 3800+ battles.

Few suggestion how to diversify players per several systems
.
If you want to destroy structures like HUBs or TCUs you need to destroy their (lets just name it) "power generators" which are located in neighborhood systems and they must be destroyed simultaneously.

This would prevent to load all players to just one system but diversify them to other 3-4.

And above all, remove drone assist.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-01-19 10:34:09 UTC
Hahahaha no, this would be terribly broken. People would exploit this to get their ships to safety.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#3 - 2014-01-19 10:35:40 UTC
I can confirm that letting players teleport to neighboring systems' stations in null is a fantastic idea.



Also that requiring several small geographic areas to be attacked instead of one will totally solve the node problem. Because nobody will possible concentrate their forces against one section of an enemy that divides itself.
Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2014-01-19 10:51:30 UTC
Neutral spectator... so you wanted to add to the load just to be a ****. Nice.

On the other issue, as has already been pointed out that won't really work. The only real solution (short of a complete backend overhaul of the server/network code) would be to lock the system in question, boot everyone out of it, and then have the GMs teleport in the fleets (which won't be allowed to exceed a predetermined size (500v500, 1000v1000, etc) likely with limits on numbers of carriers, etc.

Without a hardcap on participants (and until the server code is so modern and clean it can have an unlimited number of ships on grid) EVE players will always be pushing the limit of node death.

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#5 - 2014-01-19 10:54:02 UTC
There are already at least 3 threads you could have contributed to. There is really no need to create your own thread about the same issue.

/me points at his signature.

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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-01-19 11:18:46 UTC
I got a better idea. On the log in screen, it shows where your ship is. If it's in space, then there should be a button to self-destruct your ship and pod, so you return to your home system.

Kind of like a "go back to start" button Big smile
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-01-19 11:21:15 UTC
Spectrator

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
TharOkha
0asis Group
#8 - 2014-01-19 11:36:58 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Spectrator


Oh sorry that English is not my mother language Mr. perfect.
My proposal is about diversifying server load to more systems / nodes. Instead of debating this, you have debased my login solution and cherry-picked my grammar glitches.

But what can i expect from "engrish" nullsec elitist ,right?

And next time when someone suggest some improvements to game just send him directly to hell. (Maybe that's the reason why nullsec sucks so much.)

Until then, enjoy and cry more about 3800+ laggy fights. Blink

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Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-01-19 11:44:30 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Spectrator


Oh sorry that English is not my mother language Mr. perfect.
My proposal is about diversifying server load to more systems / nodes. Instead of debating this, you have debased my login solution and cherry-picked my grammar glitches.

But what can i expect from "engrish" nullsec elitist ,right?

And next time when someone suggest some improvements to game just send him directly to hell. (Maybe that's the reason why nullsec sucks so much.)

Until then, enjoy and cry more about 3800+ laggy fights. Blink


I like how it looks like he is hanging his head in shame Cool
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-01-19 11:47:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
TharOkha wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Spectrator


Oh sorry that English is not my mother language Mr. perfect.
My proposal is about diversifying server load to more systems / nodes. Instead of debating this, you have debased my login solution and cherry-picked my grammar glitches.

But what can i expect from "engrish" nullsec elitist ,right?

And next time when someone suggest some improvements to game just send him directly to hell. (Maybe that's the reason why nullsec sucks so much.)

Until then, enjoy and cry more about 3800+ laggy fights. Blink
You feel offended by a lone single word, because it points out your spelling mistake. You know why spelling mistakes happen? Because those who make these mistakes don't improve themselves. They refuse to learn. Instead they insult others for pointing them at their mistakes, because it makes them mad that they aren't smart enough to make it better.

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TharOkha
0asis Group
#11 - 2014-01-19 14:21:55 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
TharOkha wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Spectrator


Oh sorry that English is not my mother language Mr. perfect.
My proposal is about diversifying server load to more systems / nodes. Instead of debating this, you have debased my login solution and cherry-picked my grammar glitches.

But what can i expect from "engrish" nullsec elitist ,right?

And next time when someone suggest some improvements to game just send him directly to hell. (Maybe that's the reason why nullsec sucks so much.)

Until then, enjoy and cry more about 3800+ laggy fights. Blink
You feel offended by a lone single word, because it points out your spelling mistake. You know why spelling mistakes happen? Because those who make these mistakes don't improve themselves. They refuse to learn. Instead they insult others for pointing them at their mistakes, because it makes them mad that they aren't smart enough to make it better.


please tell me more Big smile

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
V1P3RR
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-01-19 19:30:51 UTC
[ 2014.1.11 09:43:32 ] Tul Breetai > I like hairy men...
Sarah Nahrnid
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2014-01-20 03:20:37 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
What CCP needs to do as a first thing.

If you cannot loggin to overpopulated system, lets make a choice to load to neighborhood system. Like in Jita on primetime.

i just wanted to go to HED yesterday to observe the battle in cloaky. I couldnt jump in, i couldnt to login to EVE. I thought "ok its overpopulated i want to go out".. nope.. i had to wait until EVE morning (after the battle) to finaly log in the game. Simple "load to neighborhood system" would solve this problem.

Now,

According the battle. Its clearly a matter of fact that nowadays HW cannot drive such lagre 3800+ battles.

Few suggestion how to diversify players per several systems
.
If you want to destroy structures like HUBs or TCUs you need to destroy their (lets just name it) "power generators" which are located in neighborhood systems and they must be destroyed simultaneously.

This would prevent to load all players to just one system but diversify them to other 3-4.

And above all, remove drone assist.


Horrible idea.
Why? I was in an Archon, couldn't log back in for 5 hours, 0510 local till around 1010 local.
If I could load a neighbouring system, I'd have either gotten my Archon killed or gotten it to safely.

This is very exploitable to say the very least and will likely never see the light of day in 0.0 engagements.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#14 - 2014-01-20 03:38:51 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:

Because nobody will possible concentrate their forces against one section of an enemy that divides itself.


Not blankposting

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Milz0r
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2014-01-20 03:46:43 UTC
Is it true that half the issue is because Eve is still running off 10 year old Python code?

I dont see how it would work properly in a multi-threaded environment.

Im not a programmer but regardless of cost, would it be beneficial to have EVE reprogrammed into a newer and more efficient language?

Inb4 understanding that it would be like starting from scratch again to re-code eve in something like C++.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#16 - 2014-01-21 11:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
This proposal belongs in Feature & Ideas Discussion.
But as this proposal is neither new or original, it would get locked for redundancy.
So I might as well lock it here.

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