Out of Pod Experience

If it was not for the EPA, and other regulatory agencies, things like what happened in West Virginia a few days ago would be magnitudes worse.......imo

People say that regulation stifles innovation. I call BS. Companies would stagnate and become complacent in their money making 'schemes' if they were not continuously forced to reinvent themselves due to regulations that protect the environment and the people that reside within it.

EDIT: Ignore the broad swiping aspect of my above statement. There are many good companies out there that would not abuse their employees or their local environments if regulations were not in place, but the ones that would not be as ethical would ruin the system. Weak link and all.

I was trying to be optimistic

For an idea of what America would be without EPA, check out Mexico's northern border states. It's seriously polluted with toxic substances. In part by American companies that moved there after NAFTA (North America Free Trade Agreement).

tl;dr
Once NAFTA passed, U.S. companies like Reynolds Aluminum, Dow Corning set up operations just across the border in Mexico, in what's called the maquiladora. To take advantage of cheaper labor costs, of course. But it also happens that Mexico's equivalent of the EPA didn't have any enforcement power. So industry was free to dispose of waste however they wanted. Safely disposing of toxic waste is expensive, you know. Very expensive and very inconvenient.

Well, soon enough after NAFTA, unsafe levels of mercury, cyanide, arsenic, heavy metals, and other nasty stuff started showing up in the Rio Grande River. And then, various birth defects appearing on both sides of the border, throughout the Rio Grande Valley. Strangely, babies were being born with anenecephaly. (Anencephaly is failure of the fetus to develop the part of the skull that would contain a brain). Not just one case, but three on one day. And then many more of the next few years.

So it seemed that the high levels of mercury and other poisons were to blame. A class action suing some of the American chemical companies was formed. One of my law professors represented some of the families. The evidence started showing a direct trail of causation: U.S. corporate factories' were just dumping their toxic waste, and that pollution was causing birth defects. At which point, the corporations offered huge money settlements to the families. Unfortunately, the families accepted the cash, and the lawsuit was dropped. So the evidence against the polluter corporations never had its day in court.

So yes, I'm glad we have the EPA. They do some senseless, illogical, irrational stuff, the same as all Federal bureaucratic agencies. But at least they provide us with some degree of protection.

And I hear a lot of people saying and believing that Jesus really did walk around with the dinosaurs.

People these days just have all kinds of ideas that are absolute nonsense, that they usually hear from their pastors and friends, that are based in absolutely nothing truthful at all.

And they do this for the sole reason that they like the idea. IT makes them happy. Not necessarily the truth.

And that's the most dangerous mindset in the world. It's killed civilizations.

Funny how it's the Rabid Right Wing Dogs who fight all this, yet in 1970 it was evil "Tricky D**k" Nixon who enthusiastically signed The Clean Air Act.

I did a little research. There are plenty of sensationalist news sites that love to say how awful "Obama's EPA" is and how this whole thing is a slippery slope that will lead to the EPA taking over the world. Of course, almost nothing they say has any evidence to back it up. I found some sites that actually explained what was going on. Facts:
1.) Riverton is on the reservation
2.) Congress did pass a law in 1905 allowing non-native Americans to use the land
3.) the EPA is not taking their land away
4.) the EPA is not governing who gets to live where
5.) the EPA is not taking away the rights of citizens
6.) the EPA is helping to enforce the Clean Air Act by allowing the reservation leadership to govern the way air quality is handled on their land

But I can't find anything quite like what you're saying, expect from sensationalist news sites that can't back it up. Oh and it took me all of about five minutes to dig up the truth, and maybe another fifteen to verify it through cross-referencing.

Posting in a "The op really really felt the need to tell the world I take it in the arse from cocoa the clown and love it"
post.

Throngs of Caraloths, all over the internets.

What the EPA started off as was very much needed and still is. But what it is turning into is some thing much different. The things that are happening in Riverton i am not even going to waste my time trying to explain to you. I live very close and know people that this will effect. If you want to tell your self the the the EPA is to protect us little people go ahead. And then tell that to the Sacketts who had to fight all the way to the supreme court just to build their house. Which ruled unanimously that the EPA had exceeded its authority. Well im done here ill let you get back to being the EPA poster child and cheerleader.

IBTL

EPA jack booted thugs: http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/08/epa-overrides-congress-hands-over-town-to-indian-tribes/

Most of the Rabid Right Wing Republican Dogs want to get rid of the EPA (and anything even slightly resembling saving the environment period. That's what.

The super rich will step up with tons of financial assistance when it all goes wrong, from all the money they are saving on their huge tax cuts.