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Dust Ship Boarding idea

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Gakatako Flamdrache
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-01-18 23:47:56 UTC
I have an idea that will bring EvE and Dust to work together more. New Boarding ships that can carry a number of dust clones and dust players. These ships if locked on and close enough to a targets ship can activate a module that will eject boarding probes per cycle. The probes then will act as missiles and hit the target ship, Allowing dust players to raid ships in attempt to destroy or take over. Per probe that hits the target ship will add tickets/clones to the invading force. of course the defending ship can store clones of its own to defend ageist invaders. (perhaps a separate bay)

These new maps that will likely have to be made for each ship will have three objectives. The first and easiest one would be to destroy the ships core, blowing it up. and destroying the ship. Objective two would be hacking and crippling the ships core. Disabling the ship and ships internal defenses but not the clones who defend the ship. the Third and hardest would be to destroy the pod itself. allowing the ship to be then hijacked by an eve player. the pod of course will have the highest hp and the heaviest defense.

In the event that the pilot of the ship thinks its doomed. he can activate the self destruct system that will turn the map all red and dark. and putting a timer on how long they have to complete their objective and disable the self destruct.

To prevent piracy, Concord will also have boarding ships that will lock and board AI clones into the victims ships. making it realllly hard for the aggressor to complete even the first objective. and will offer no reward if killed so players cant farm off them. if thats too much code then let this ship boarding be only allowed in low and null sec.

The only ships that can be boarded with boarding ships would be the capital sized ships or industrial freighters and jump freighters. but as an added anti abuse. the boarding ship must have a minimum amount of players standing by in system and linked to the boarding ship. once in boarding mode the player can then enter a room where the active dust players wait till they are deployed. to load and enter the ship raid they have to walk to a pod of sorts.

To allow this feature even in systems with no station. a deplorable mini facility where boarding ships can pick up dust players would be nice, for a dust player to link to this facility. they will have to enter a special menu where you type in the system this facility is in. once typed the game will scan for any deployed dust facilities. and if so a list will come up like a server list and can join in that way. then you are entered into a room where you can link yourself to boarding ships. ships that most likely will have passwords you must enter to join. if possible, Dust players of an alliance or corp can also deploy into boarding ships at Poss stations.

New Skill books will also need to be released. such as cycle time for launching allies to enemy ships. and a Boarding ship skill that will have a long training time yet will increase your ship speed. and perhaps dust players will need training for ship boarding. such as increasing deploy time. to make things fair the defending team will have shorter respawn time than the attackers. the skill book will only shorten the respawn so its a little longer than the defence.




Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-01-18 23:50:44 UTC
Confirming I would like my ship to be disabled and/or destroyed as a result of another game I can't play and have no control over. Might as well make it a RNG chance that your ship spontaneously explodes.
Jim Roebuck
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-01-19 00:18:18 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Confirming I would like my ship to be disabled and/or destroyed as a result of another game I can't play and have no control over. Might as well make it a RNG chance that your ship spontaneously explodes.


This.

When Bon Scott died and he appeared before St. Peter at the gates of Heaven, St. Peter looked at his record and told him he couldn't get in. Just then, God screams at Peter, "Let him in, Karen Carpenter is driving me nuts. I want to hear some music with balls. We'll haggle over the paperwork later." At least I hope that's what happened.

Gakatako Flamdrache
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-01-19 00:24:17 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Confirming I would like my ship to be disabled and/or destroyed as a result of another game I can't play and have no control over. Might as well make it a RNG chance that your ship spontaneously explodes.


of corurse its not gona be easy to do. you sound like its just gona happen. when raiding this way its gona be VERY hard to succeed. the only sure way to be boarded easily and destoryed is if your stupid and fly alone. or you dont store clones and weapons to defend yourself.
Thead Enco
HR..
#5 - 2014-01-19 00:29:27 UTC
TLDR; Dust is a cancer to EVE that needs to be purged off of TQ like a bad case of "swine flu"
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#6 - 2014-01-19 00:32:06 UTC
Sometimes people ask me, "Holy **** man, why do you hate people so much?"

And I have to say, "I don't hate people. I just have a really low tolerance for stupidity."

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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-01-19 00:50:16 UTC
Posting in Dust Ship Boarding Idea thread #322020938181858

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#8 - 2014-01-19 00:54:30 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Sometimes people ask me, "Holy **** man, why do you hate people so much?"

And I have to say, "I don't hate people. I just have a really low tolerance for stupidity."


Hear, Hear.

A wise pilot once told me about EvE...."Always bet on stupid."

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

SpaceSaft
Almost Dangerous
Wolves Amongst Strangers
#9 - 2014-01-19 01:57:27 UTC
Did you get that idea from the last dev stream? Because that was mentioned there...
Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2014-01-19 02:03:33 UTC
Yeah.. first thing you have to do though is actually get people to play DUST

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-01-19 02:12:08 UTC
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Yeah.. first thing you have to do though is actually get people to play DUST

Second thing you have to do is to get people playing EVE to care about people playing DUST.

(Other than in the "hey, targets" sense.)
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2014-01-19 06:24:59 UTC
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#13 - 2014-01-19 09:41:19 UTC
This has been suggested before in lots of threads, the one thing that they've all got in common is that dust boarding is universally despised and panned by capsular pilots for all sorts of valid reasons. It might be a fun idea, but it's not a good idea for lots of reasons too numerous to go into.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2014-01-19 13:14:51 UTC
Hi there. I'm a capital pilot.

Please explain to me how a boarding craft can get through my shields, armour and hull, which can (if set up correctly) tank multiple doomsdays.

Please explain to me why it should be completely impossible for me to actively defend my most expensive asset in any way, shape or form.

Please explain to me why the existence of my ship should be controlled by an entirely separate game, and how that game would work if, say, my dread is in 10% tidi.
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#15 - 2014-01-19 13:34:01 UTC
the FW hubs should be board-able so we can have a totally urban enclosed environment to battle in.. err i mean for the dust bunnies to battle in.

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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#16 - 2014-01-20 16:28:13 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Hi there. I'm a capital pilot.

Please explain to me how a boarding craft can get through my shields, armour and hull, which can (if set up correctly) tank multiple doomsdays.

Please explain to me why it should be completely impossible for me to actively defend my most expensive asset in any way, shape or form.

Please explain to me why the existence of my ship should be controlled by an entirely separate game, and how that game would work if, say, my dread is in 10% tidi.


The risk vs reward isn't the same in the free to play vs. subscription. I also think DUST boarding parties is horrible. As suggested above perhaps use the forum search function? This may be the only idea related to DUST I've seen in 5 discussions in the last 3 weeks.
Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-01-20 17:05:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dolorous Tremmens
This is the third such post in a week. and so for that reason I will cut and paste:

" lets recap:

Eve players PAY real money to play the game

Dust was forced on EVE players, and took development time and money away from EVE.

A space battle is usually fast. when it isn't fast its time dilation'd. The battle would have been fought and won/lost before any of the dust bunnys made any kind of progress. in a ti-di battle, no one wants added complexity, it slows things down further.

I've spent years skilling myself up to have very strong defences and this would bypass all those skills.

I've worked to get into the ship I'm flying. it will be lost due to my incompetence or overwhelming factors, NOT by some twich with a PS3.

Dust skill points are meaningless to eve players

You want me to pay more isk to have a defense against a f2p turd.

You may play both, but I don't, and many other players don't. its nice that CCP is keeping to one universe for their games, but apart from seeing dust bunnies in local and reading their inane banter, I don't want any interaction between games.

Eve is about space, and dust is about planets and unimportant objectives. Enjoy your FPS, just keep it away from my internet spaceships."


Now for some extra kicking:

What dust bunny is going to wait for a possible attack, to defend my carrier. its one thing to be on the attack, and knowing you're probably going to do it, quite another to sit around waiting for it. without those defenders, do the attackers get to attack?

What eve nullsec player, on any side, wouldn't do their best to kill that instertion ship. after all, it could be THEIR cap being attacked by f2p players.

No, keep eve about space, and dust about.. dust. its a nice addon, but to most eve players, we're living the star wars dream, and dusties are just the dreaded, loathed holiday special.

Get some Eve. Make it yours.

Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#18 - 2014-01-20 19:08:22 UTC
Dolorous Tremmens wrote:
This is the third such post in a week. and so for that reason I will cut and paste:

Now for some extra kicking:

What dust bunny is going to wait for a possible attack, to defend my carrier. its one thing to be on the attack, and knowing you're probably going to do it, quite another to sit around waiting for it. without those defenders, do the attackers get to attack?
.


Haha, I would pay money for DUST players to sit in my hold wait for an hour or two and then self destruct my ship. Real money because it would be that fun.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2014-01-20 19:42:21 UTC
The minute the fate of my carrier is decided by 12 year olds with mommies pilfered credit card that I cannot defend against, only then will you know the meaning of mass unsubs and truly unbalanced gameplay.



DUST needs to be allowed to die to make way for something much better and more desperately needed, Eve content.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#20 - 2014-01-20 19:45:15 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
The minute the fate of my carrier is decided by 12 year olds with mommies pilfered credit card that I cannot defend against, only then will you know the meaning of mass unsubs and truly unbalanced gameplay.



DUST needs to be allowed to die to make way for something much better and more desperately needed, Eve content.



How about you leave some articulate thoughts for the rest of us?