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Few Questions on Starting

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Jamie S Smith
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-18 23:36:04 UTC
I started EVE about 3 days ago my questions are:

Do i need to do all the career Agent missions at the beginning?

How can i make money aswell as doing pvp?

Whats the best way to go about doing pvp?
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-01-18 23:43:25 UTC
Jamie S Smith wrote:
Do i need to do all the career Agent missions at the beginning?


while you don't have to do them they do give you the skill books, equipment and ships you'll need to get started.

For making money during PvP I'd suggest faction warfare as the sites you fight in there give you loyalty points that you can spend on items to sell at market. But propbadly best for someone else to talk about that as I've never done FW before.
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-01-19 00:02:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
You really should do all of the tutorial agents as well as the blood stained stars mission arc. They will introduce you to the game properly.

As far as making isk, do something that you enjoy. There are lots of ways. If, like me, You don't enjoy any of it then consider awox'ing, corp theft, or (again, like me) just flip a plex now and then and fly cheap. No pesky PvE no tears over lost ships, just shooting stuff.

For PvP, join a good corp. Take your time, do some research. There are a few good threads on the forum and another whole section just for recruiting. The advice I give most often on finding a PvP corp is to go to low sec and attack other PvP'ers. Be a good sport when (not if, when) you lose. You will get great advice and invites to pub channels, fleets & corps.

Good luck & welcome to Eve
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2014-01-19 00:26:48 UTC
Jamie S Smith wrote:
Do i need to do all the career Agent missions at the beginning?

It's recommended. It will give you a very basic understanding of some of the mechanics (not all of them) and some starting cash/ships/equipment.

After that... go do the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc (one of the tutorial agents or Aura should point you towards it. It's a 20+ mission string that will give you even more cash, familiarize your with some more things you can do in EVE, and put you in places where you might be able to talk with helpful veterans (just ask for help).

Jamie S Smith wrote:
How can i make money aswell as doing pvp?

PvP is generally a negative ISK activity (see: you'll lose money)... especially when starting out. But there are ways to mitigate the losses (e.g. using and insuring all your Tech 1 ships... teaming up with veterans who can show you how to make ISK and/or give you loot and/or give you freebies).

Jamie S Smith wrote:
Whats the best way to go about doing pvp?

Depends on the person and what type of PvP you prefer.

There are "classes" run by various veteran organizations (like Agony Unleashed) that can give you a crash course.
There are PvP organizations that fight each other but with some basic "rules" (like Red vs. Blue (Red Federation versus Blue Republic).
And you can also just do it the "trial and error" way by doing a little research on PvP... buying a whole bunch of ships and weapons/modules... fitting them up... and going out to hostile places.

And when you die (you WILL die very often early on) strike up a conversation with your killers and ask what you did wrong (you will always do something wrong). Most of the time you'll get a constructive response. If not, ignore and keep on going.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#5 - 2014-01-19 00:28:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Inxentas Ultramar
PVP is usually an affair where you lose money... hoping you can make your enemies lose even more Lol

As for making money through PVP mechanics I'd recommend piracy against PI industrialists. What you need is the ability to fly frigates with an overdose of warp scramblers (to pin down and shoot a target) and a hauler of your own (to move high-volume loot into a station). Fiddle with your camera tracking options untill you discover how to scan a celestial at 5 degrees in 3 seconds flat. Then it's just a matter of warping on top of a customs office (hint: PI haulers will be sitting at 0 off the things) and cross your fingers that you (and your fleetmates) have enough scrams + points + webs to nail down whatever pilot was brave enough to do business in your 'working area' without a standings agreement.

Then there is the option of mercenary jobs: basicly other dudes pay you to pew whatever. Not every group has the means and the patience to grind through POS defenses, sometimes sheer deterrence via the support of wardecs is enough to get some people to leave other people alone. You basicly formalize yes, for X ISK I will run the risk of being at war with group Y through such a support. Merc stuff is a little more demanding then piracy as the latter is far easier to engage in solo.

Actually making ISK with PVP isn't easy, honourable or worth your time per s­e, unless you simply enjoy the challenge and don't mind having to be a bit of a **** to people at times. I sure as hell have a better time ratting and pirating in lowsec then I would be running missions, despite making less money (although that's my own fault for being lazy lately and not using my exploration skills haha).
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#6 - 2014-01-19 00:29:11 UTC
You can make isk in Factional Warfare, at least enough starting out to keep you in ships from the LP and junk. A lot of people farm it, but there is still lots of pvp. Plexing basic sites would be good early on with the T1 frig restrictions. Missions are one level easier, so a lvl4 mission is doable with ships you would run in regular lvl3 missions. No requirement to join a player corp, in fact being in the npc corp you can come and go as you want with no long waits.

But first, yes, best to do all the career agents and then off to do the epic arc: the blood stained stars. That will basically give you a tour of of the four empires. By the time you finish that, you will understand the game more and make better choices of what to do next.

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Jamie S Smith
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-01-19 00:31:30 UTC
could i just ask you then like i've looked at the ships and its either the assault frigates or a covert ops frigate im looking at working towards which should i do?



Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#8 - 2014-01-19 00:37:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Inxentas Ultramar
Jamie S Smith wrote:
could i just ask you then like i've looked at the ships and its either the assault frigates or a covert ops frigate im looking at working towards which should i do?


In terms of PVP? If you want to be the sneaky dude that creeps up to somebody so the rest of your crew can pop him go covops. If you want more up-close-and-personal go assault frigate, you might get a lot of enjoyable fights using those especially if you do FW or pirate in FW space. In the long run you will probably train both anyway, so think about it as which one you will train for first instead.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#9 - 2014-01-19 00:47:04 UTC
Jamie S Smith wrote:
could i just ask you then like i've looked at the ships and its either the assault frigates or a covert ops frigate im looking at working towards which should i do?

What kind of warfare do you enjoy?

Assault Frigates are basically slower, beefier frigates that deal a little more damage than their Tech 1 variants.

Covert-Ops frigates (Cov-Ops and Stealth Bombers) are good at two respective things; scouting out areas with probes and harassing/killing larger targets using hit-and-run tactics.


Also keep in mind that most Tech 1 ships can already do what their Tech 2 variants do (they are usually 80% as effective). I've been playing for years, have fairly top notch skills, and lots of money... and I routinely Tech 1 ships because they are just as good but far cheaper.
Jamie S Smith
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-01-19 00:50:05 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Jamie S Smith wrote:
could i just ask you then like i've looked at the ships and its either the assault frigates or a covert ops frigate im looking at working towards which should i do?

What kind of warfare do you enjoy?

Assault Frigates are basically slower, beefier frigates that deal a little more damage than their Tech 1 variants.

Covert-Ops frigates (Cov-Ops and Stealth Bombers) are good at two respective things; scouting out areas with probes and harassing/killing larger targets using hit-and-run tactics.


Also keep in mind that most Tech 1 ships can already do what their Tech 2 variants do (they are usually 80% as effective). I've been playing for years, have fairly top notch skills, and lots of money... and I routinely Tech 1 ships because they are just as good but far cheaper.


Ok kl because atm i've really taken a liking to the merlin and i know the assault frigates are the saem look and style to it, but then i also sorta got abit of a crush on the manticore it looks and sounds ******* epic! lol
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#11 - 2014-01-19 00:50:34 UTC
Jamie S Smith wrote:
could i just ask you then like i've looked at the ships and its either the assault frigates or a covert ops frigate im looking at working towards which should i do?



Depends what pvp, but yeah you would do well in FW starting with a Merlin. Then there is the Hookbill which is missile based attack frigate, navy issue so between T1 and T2. Then T2 is either the harpy or the hawk which are both nice frigates as good as many of the cruisers. Alt to AF's would be interceptors, and more common now since the game updates and rebalancing attempts.

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Ovv Topik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-01-19 01:07:26 UTC
Stick with your Merlin for a while mate. Sign up for FW and run plexes for income. Take fights as they come. Fleet up whenever you feel like it.

Work on your core skills before you start fighting in the T2's.

There are a lot of situational awareness skills to instill, and there is a lot to learn about each of the ships you'll be fighting: How their usually fit and flown.

Stick to the novice plexes at first, and you'll only face other T1 Frigs.

You'll learn just as much from each loss as you do from each win, so get in there!

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#13 - 2014-01-19 12:51:02 UTC
Jamie S Smith wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Jamie S Smith wrote:
could i just ask you then like i've looked at the ships and its either the assault frigates or a covert ops frigate im looking at working towards which should i do?

What kind of warfare do you enjoy?

Assault Frigates are basically slower, beefier frigates that deal a little more damage than their Tech 1 variants.

Covert-Ops frigates (Cov-Ops and Stealth Bombers) are good at two respective things; scouting out areas with probes and harassing/killing larger targets using hit-and-run tactics.


Also keep in mind that most Tech 1 ships can already do what their Tech 2 variants do (they are usually 80% as effective). I've been playing for years, have fairly top notch skills, and lots of money... and I routinely Tech 1 ships because they are just as good but far cheaper.


Ok kl because atm i've really taken a liking to the merlin and i know the assault frigates are the saem look and style to it, but then i also sorta got abit of a crush on the manticore it looks and sounds ******* epic! lol


Stick with the Merlin. It is a mighty war boat in its own right, and a whole lot cheaper than an AF or a Manticore. Stealth bombers can be fun with a group of people who know what they are doing, but not great for solo or starting out in PvP.

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