Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yeah, I see the point really....

I was hoping there would be more constructive ideas to come of the post.

The main reason behind even asking is due to friends that more or less refuse to get into a game that they will likely never have their own character (not bought from the bazzar) at the same level as mine.

To those that that mentioned living in the now sort of thing, yes, I have and continue to do what ever I can while on the way to various skill levels.

Thanks for the comments.

The actual process of skill training works very well.
There are a couple of things to improve it, one for older players, and one that would lessen the learning cliff for early capsuleers..

Firstly the training queue limit of one day plus last long skill should be extended to two plus last skill, there is no reason to limit this to one day.

Secondly, one needs to think why it is of value to limit the ability to improve skills so firmly.
Gaining skills, improves the value of the character, gives meaning to it's growth, and a sense of achievement to the player, these are all good from a players Point of view.
It is understandable that anyone who has played a long time values this, and any change will feel like a devaluation of their commitment and skill value.

The problem is that the first 6 - 12 months is the most critical, and having a too long and slow a progression during the early life of the character will lose customers.

I suggest that there are 3 solutions to this.

1. Skill points earned per hour should be increased by 50%
2. The point where a new skill or piece of equipment may be utilised be changed throughout the game be lowered to lV.
3. All players receive an aura mission once a month which will allow an accelerated and separate training in one area that has not been previously or only lightly trained, to allow broader characters. This will prevent characters becoming too narrow and players looking and saying, "i would have liked to try something new, but it will kill the training of what I am trying to achieve. "

We need to separate the real and good value in the training system progression, from just making things difficult for it's own sake.

Stagnation is not an option, If we want to play this game, we need new customers to try and more importantly stay.
Remember long term players have gained many skill advantages when things previously changed (racial ship skills, removal of training skills etc) these helped them get to the level they are now. New players are grinding and grinding, and seem to get nowhere, so many basic things to train, they put in the core skills into a training plan and think that just to be capable (not good or expert) they will need over a year, just to do basic things.

They leave.

We may all say, well I had to do it and harden up, it is not meant to be easy.
Just remember, we can do things while we train for exotic ships or features.
They need to do it just to function at a very basic level.

This game is not meant to reward laziness or provide instant gratification, but it is not meant to be either a second job that you pay for or a punishment.

We need to remember this.

The alternative/the future?

30k logins a day, of which 20k are alts. We may never know the exact number,but pretty sure CCP Know how many accounts are actually paid for with RL currency.
Net subscriber loss
Not a recipe for either a good business or a long lived game for us.

We need SOMEONE to put the cash/plex into the system for us to plex our alts.


Regarding OP Changing the training mechanic to a grind method will not help, keep the current system, but remove the "punishment for being a new player" aspect from it

Quite sad that people believe they have to grind for ISK. Something really common and idiots in starter corps keep reinforcing this crap.